BD Eletronic Boost builder extra 50-80hp?
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BD Eletronic Boost builder extra 50-80hp?
Has anyone instaled the BD boost builder? I says that it can give you an extra 50-80 hp during high boost, is this true?
Here is the site BD Power - Product: Electronic Boost Builders
Here is the site BD Power - Product: Electronic Boost Builders
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Wow thats a lot of Ford Metal you have there! Which truck are you inquiring about?
On the 7.3L the BD Boost Builders will allow you to build more than the 22PSI the factory feels is sufficient. If you are not running a chip or tuner than you will not build enough boost for it to be needed. If you are running a chip that plugs into that map sensor like the Edge Juice it will have the boost fooler built in. If you are running a tuner like the Edge Evolution it will have no connection to the map sensor and thus need a boost builder.
On the 6.0L the same thing applies with the chip and tuners but unlike the 7.3L there are benefits to adding one to a stock truck as well. The 6.0L is programmed to cut fuel back until 5PSI of boost to prevent black smoke. Unfortunately this creates the infamous dead spot on hard acceleration, by installing a BD Boost Fooler we eliminated that hesitation issue.
Hope this helps
On the 7.3L the BD Boost Builders will allow you to build more than the 22PSI the factory feels is sufficient. If you are not running a chip or tuner than you will not build enough boost for it to be needed. If you are running a chip that plugs into that map sensor like the Edge Juice it will have the boost fooler built in. If you are running a tuner like the Edge Evolution it will have no connection to the map sensor and thus need a boost builder.
On the 6.0L the same thing applies with the chip and tuners but unlike the 7.3L there are benefits to adding one to a stock truck as well. The 6.0L is programmed to cut fuel back until 5PSI of boost to prevent black smoke. Unfortunately this creates the infamous dead spot on hard acceleration, by installing a BD Boost Fooler we eliminated that hesitation issue.
Hope this helps
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And this one too, I would not expect 80HP though, more like 30HP with cooler EGT's and much better bottom end.
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Anytime you eliminate the bottom end de-fueling you will see better bottom end responce on the 6.0L, Anytime you build more boost you will see cooler EGT's.
The boost foolers are needed with any "tuner" that just plugs into the OBD and reprograms the ECM and has no physical connection to the map sensor. Most quality "chips" that hard-line plug in under the hood and have a physical connection to the map sensor should not need one.
So yes it will work with the Superchip as it is a tuner not a chip.
Its a little confusing but I hope this helps.
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ok if i had the edge juice pluged in and have it set on 0 aka "stock" (im not using the edge program becouse i didnt like the shifts) and im useing the superchip programer would the edge still affect the map sensor?
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Yes the truck starts acting funny if you piggy back the boost fooler in with the Edge, even on stock settings.
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Dave,
Is there any danger of "overboost" when using this? I'm not an expert but doesn't the PCM keep the turbo from raising the boost to a dangerous level? Does this device still leave some sort of protection in place by only allowing a certain percentage higher boost or eliminate it completely?
OR, am I completely misunderstanding how this works?
Thanks in advance,
(the other) Dave
Is there any danger of "overboost" when using this? I'm not an expert but doesn't the PCM keep the turbo from raising the boost to a dangerous level? Does this device still leave some sort of protection in place by only allowing a certain percentage higher boost or eliminate it completely?
OR, am I completely misunderstanding how this works?
Thanks in advance,
(the other) Dave
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Dave,
Is there any danger of "overboost" when using this? I'm not an expert but doesn't the PCM keep the turbo from raising the boost to a dangerous level? Does this device still leave some sort of protection in place by only allowing a certain percentage higher boost or eliminate it completely?
OR, am I completely misunderstanding how this works?
Thanks in advance,
(the other) Dave
Is there any danger of "overboost" when using this? I'm not an expert but doesn't the PCM keep the turbo from raising the boost to a dangerous level? Does this device still leave some sort of protection in place by only allowing a certain percentage higher boost or eliminate it completely?
OR, am I completely misunderstanding how this works?
Thanks in advance,
(the other) Dave
Will it work with the exhaust brake also? Will it give better or worse milage?
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Dave,
Is there any danger of "overboost" when using this? I'm not an expert but doesn't the PCM keep the turbo from raising the boost to a dangerous level? Does this device still leave some sort of protection in place by only allowing a certain percentage higher boost or eliminate it completely?
OR, am I completely misunderstanding how this works?
Thanks in advance,
(the other) Dave
Is there any danger of "overboost" when using this? I'm not an expert but doesn't the PCM keep the turbo from raising the boost to a dangerous level? Does this device still leave some sort of protection in place by only allowing a certain percentage higher boost or eliminate it completely?
OR, am I completely misunderstanding how this works?
Thanks in advance,
(the other) Dave
Tip: With the problems associated with the variable turbos in the 6.0L, opening them up to max boost once in a while is the best thing for them. Lots of city driving will never allow the vanes to open all the way up and will eventually cause them to stick.
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Tip: If you ever pop a head gasket install the ARP head studs, the local Ford dealers sends us there head jobs to have the ARP studs installed here. Once you do the ARP stead you will be able to lay on the throttle much harder without head gasket concern.