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Old May 2, 2009 | 11:04 AM
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Well the E-cam is hardly optimal for this motor and application, it'll do a lot better in the TQ department with others like the Comp 35-320-8. With that I get 425+ ft lbs from 2000rpm up peaking at 440 at 4000rpm. Peak HP is still 395 at 5500rpm.
is that with the 351?
 
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Old May 2, 2009 | 03:58 PM
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Why would you put a 302 cam in a 347?
 
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Old May 2, 2009 | 04:46 PM
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Ya with all the experiance these guys on this thread have you think they would now better.??? LOL . Lew
 
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Old May 2, 2009 | 04:53 PM
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now better Thats good ..I shpell em like ther sposta be shpell Or something like that ...
 
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Old May 2, 2009 | 05:45 PM
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i see the comp 35-320-8 is listed as a 302 cam, but when looking at cams they list 5.0 ho cams and 351w cams the same since they have the same firing order. i do want somewere in the region of 400+hp and 500 torque out of this. i think im going to go with one of the trickflow intake manifolds. conanski, what would be a good cam for a 351w with the same afr 185 heads? im kind of curious if it would be much better since im kind of wondering if a 351w might be the way to go instead? since space in the engine bay isnt too much of an issue. especially since i know the 351 block is much much stronger than that of a 302
 
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Old May 2, 2009 | 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 8bahead
Why would you put a 302 cam in a 347?
... A 347 is a stroked 302... They all can use the same cam & heads 302-351..Lew
 
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Old May 2, 2009 | 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 70torino429
is that with the 351?
No that's with the 342.
 
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Old May 2, 2009 | 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by 8bahead
Why would you put a 302 cam in a 347?
Because it fits.
 
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Old May 2, 2009 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 70torino429
i see the comp 35-320-8 is listed as a 302 cam, but when looking at cams they list 5.0 ho cams and 351w cams the same since they have the same firing order.
Every motor in the small block ford(Windsor) family shares certain similarities, one of them is cam dimensions. So you can put any SBF cam in any SBF motor, they will all work as long as the plugs are wired to match the cam and you use appropriate lifters for the cam and block.


Originally Posted by 70torino429
I do want somewere in the region of 400+hp and 500 torque out of this.
Then you need to build a 400+ cubic inch stroker based on a 351 or find a 460. Low rpm TQ is directly related to engine displacement and there simply isn't enough of that in a 302 based motor.
 
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lol... would you recommend the comp 35-320-8 for a 351? im kind of curious how the 351 would run with the afr 185heads, same intake/exhaust and such, where would that put me? naturally aspirated. i have looked at some small (8 psi or less) foxbody turbo or supercharger setups that would work on a 351 as well, seems to be enough mustang guys selling them. of course the engine would need to be built a little different with a turbo/supercharger, but just thought id throw it out there
 
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Old May 2, 2009 | 08:22 PM
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Have a look down at he 408w build-up thread to see what that will do. A 351 won't be a lot different than a 342, there's only 9 cubic inches difference after all.
 
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Old May 2, 2009 | 08:28 PM
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well if i go with a 351 i probably wont be stroking it out, probably just go .030 over to make it a 357 and try to find a small turbo or centrifugal supercharger as long as i keep the compression down to about 9:1. i will check out the 408 thread anyhow to get some ideas. whats your opinion on the comp 35-320-8 for a 351? since you mentioned it was better for a 342 im sure it would probably do just as good in a 351.
 
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Old May 2, 2009 | 08:35 PM
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You should remember you are used to driving a 302 truck around, a built 351(or 342)is SOOO much more motor it's not funny, 400 ft/lbs of TQ at 2000rpm is easily double what your stock 5.0 makes. Does the term "head snaping" mean anything to you?
 
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Old May 2, 2009 | 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Conanski
You should remember you are used to driving a 302 truck around, a built 351(or 342)is SOOO much more motor it's not funny, 400 ft/lbs of TQ at 2000rpm is easily double what your stock 5.0 makes. Does the term "head snaping" mean anything to you?


good point lol. well, before it crapped out i was driving a 300hp 295 tq cadillac sts, and even that was night and day from driving the truck to say the least. ive only gotten to drive my dads dodge dart drag car a few times, you cant even really lay your foot into it until 3rd gear to keep the rear end from coming around, of course thats on 8" tires. ill probably go with a 10" or similar on this car. im really planning on going all out on this car, the previous owner is going to scratch his head when i blow by his corvette with it so i guess you could sort of call this more of an overkill project lol, with the only limitation being that it needs to run good on pumpgas. ive been making good money lately and i want to spend it lol.
 
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Old May 2, 2009 | 09:11 PM
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Paul...I used sequential fire injection, 700 cfm. I will post my print screen of DD with Paul's setup to see if you can mimic. I cam up a little short of CarCrafts runs to...but I didn't plug in the extra lift of the 1.7's. It will will probably be Monday before I get back....I have wrenching to do. Also, Torino I did a post earlier with a 351 as you requested with all the same specs. The curve was almost identical to your 342 build. Go back through this post...there's lots of info. I still think your 342 will do what you want....probably not 500 lb ft but over 400 lb ft and very flat. I will play around with some different cams when I get a chance.
 
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