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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 02:47 PM
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Remote Start

I have a Viper 5000 alarm on my F-350. I am about to buy a 2009 F-150 and want to put the same style of alarm on that one so I can use the same keyfob. I am wanting to put remote start on the truck, but I am thinking of doing it with the alarm instead of the factory system. Has anybody done this before? I have been told you need a special module for the remote start on the alarm to bypass the security of the truck...does Viper have this module? Or, would I be able to use the factory remote start system with an after market alarm?

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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 02:51 PM
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Good luck with speaking to the viper people. I been trying with clifford. Same company and they still keep telling me there's no dam module avalible for the platinum truck even though i seen a member on here get one fitted. They said that it can be piggy backed from the ford remote start system but it's a bodge way of doing it. Im gonna try viper and see if they say anything different.
 
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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 02:56 PM
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Just get the Viper system with remote start and don't worry about the factory remote start/alarm. Yes, you need the bypass.

I am getting a Viper alarm with remote start for my truck, either the 5900 or 7900. To save money, I'm buying everything myself online and then I'm having a certified installer put it in my truck, but he's going to do it as a side job for me on a weekend. Luckily I found this guy who was willing to do this. anyways, he told me to get the Directed PKFM bypass module for my truck. (Directed is the parent company of Viper)

You can find that bypass module on ebay for around $45 shipped.
 
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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by SteveVFX4
Just get the Viper system with remote start and don't worry about the factory remote start/alarm. Yes, you need the bypass.

I am getting a Viper alarm with remote start for my truck, either the 5900 or 7900. To save money, I'm buying everything myself online and then I'm having a certified installer put it in my truck, but he's going to do it as a side job for me on a weekend. Luckily I found this guy who was willing to do this. anyways, he told me to get the Directed PKFM bypass module for my truck. (Directed is the parent company of Viper)

You can find them on ebay for around $45 shipped.

Awesome, thanks for the tip. This bypass module doesn't reduce the integrity of the alarm in anyway does it? Can you still get starter kill and have remote start at the same time? Sorry if these questions are a little ignorant.
 
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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 03:23 PM
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I think all of systems have the starter kill and they are not affected. I'm no expert but I think the bypass module is just momentarily activated when you press the start button in order to start the truck. Your truck is still protected by the alarm at all times.

As far as the rumored code-hopping security only in the Platinum model, I asked my installer about it before and I believed he checked and did not find any known bypass problems. But I just sent him an email again about this and I also just emailed the Viper tech line to see what they say (if the PKFM bypass module will work on my Platinum or not).
 
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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Bsimmer3000
Im gonna try viper and see if they say anything different.
well, Viper just replied back to me extremely quick after I asked if there are any bypass issues with the Platinum. Here's what they said:

Hello Steve,

Yes, the 2009 has a slightly different immobilizer technology. However, the PKFM has already been modified to work with it. Make sure you have the latest firmware on the PKFM by flashing it before installing.

Regards,

Rob Potts
Technical Service Representative Level 2
Directed Electronics, Inc.
1 Viper Way
Vista, CA 92081
email: (I left off his email address so he doesn't get spammed)
 
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Originally Posted by SteveVFX4
well, Viper just replied back to me extremely quick after I asked if there are any bypass issues with the Platinum. Here's what they said:

Hello Steve,

Yes, the 2009 has a slightly different immobilizer technology. However, the PKFM has already been modified to work with it. Make sure you have the latest firmware on the PKFM by flashing it before installing.

Regards,

Rob Potts
Technical Service Representative Level 2
Directed Electronics, Inc.
1 Viper Way
Vista, CA 92081
email: (I left his email address so he doesn't get spammed)
Thanks for all the help...I will be sure to have the bypass installed at the same time
 
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Originally Posted by SteveVFX4
well, Viper just replied back to me extremely quick after I asked if there are any bypass issues with the Platinum. Here's what they said:

Hello Steve,

Yes, the 2009 has a slightly different immobilizer technology. However, the PKFM has already been modified to work with it. Make sure you have the latest firmware on the PKFM by flashing it before installing.

Regards,

Rob Potts
Technical Service Representative Level 2
Directed Electronics, Inc.
1 Viper Way
Vista, CA 92081
email: (I left off his email address so he doesn't get spammed)
wooohooo. Clifford aint even told me that they had updated it. *****. Still gonna go for the clifford system as i like the remote more. Good to hear though. Saved me contacting them steve. cheers
 
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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 08:54 AM
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wooohooo. Clifford aint even told me that they had updated it. *****. Still gonna go for the clifford system as i like the remote more. Good to hear though. Saved me contacting them steve. cheers
I also wrote back to that guy and asked him about the 2009 having a slightly different immobilizer technology, did he mean all 09's or just the Platinum model?

His answer was "all 09's".
 
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