2,900 hp.
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2,900 hp.
It's not an FE, but it sure is awesome. In Hot Rod May issue page 72, a guy built a 541ci. "460" Ford with twin turbo's in a 1993 Mustang. Running 6.70 at 219.33 mph. 2,900 hp.
I still like our FE engines. They may be slower, but that are way cool.
I still like our FE engines. They may be slower, but that are way cool.
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Unfortunately the head design is very restrictive compared to the later model stuff. There has been leaps/bounds in making FE's better, but for bang/buck there is better. I won't go there, but others will.
Rick Smith(original owner of Trick Flow Heads) and I were talking one day and he wanted to build me a set of custom billet FE heads that would flow all kinds of stupid numbers. Of course they would end up not being true "FE" heads, but a comglomeration of things, but they would make some serious power.
I told him that right after I hit the lottery I'll give him a jingle and he can start on them LOL!! He was working with a local truck puller and build a custom set of billet heads for him and there were a work of art. They were getting 1000 hp out of 410ci., single 4bbl, normally aspirated. Not sure how much gold it cost, but it fell into "if you have to ask".
Rick Smith(original owner of Trick Flow Heads) and I were talking one day and he wanted to build me a set of custom billet FE heads that would flow all kinds of stupid numbers. Of course they would end up not being true "FE" heads, but a comglomeration of things, but they would make some serious power.
I told him that right after I hit the lottery I'll give him a jingle and he can start on them LOL!! He was working with a local truck puller and build a custom set of billet heads for him and there were a work of art. They were getting 1000 hp out of 410ci., single 4bbl, normally aspirated. Not sure how much gold it cost, but it fell into "if you have to ask".
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Our Keith Craft stage II heads are supposed to flow 320 cfm on the intake and 225 at the exhaust at .600 lift. Our Comp Cams roller cam has a .674 lift, and by the Comp cams program they say our engine should put out 717.6 hp. n.a.
I think that is way high.
If it puts out 600 hp, then with our nitrous setup, we will push 800 hp.
That would put the block near it's breaking point. That is why I am building two 434 engines "just in case". We will find out this summer if the block can take 800 hp and still live or not.
I think that is way high.
If it puts out 600 hp, then with our nitrous setup, we will push 800 hp.
That would put the block near it's breaking point. That is why I am building two 434 engines "just in case". We will find out this summer if the block can take 800 hp and still live or not.
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I've done several 11:1 482 inch engines based around my CNC Edelbrocks - they flow 324 @ .700 on our SF1020 bench. With solid rollers from Comp with .696 gross lift (.670 net of lash). They deliver 613-618 HP pretty consistantly on a DTS dyno. Unless I am way off - your expectations are valid and the computer program is rather "optimistic"...
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I've done several 11:1 482 inch engines based around my CNC Edelbrocks - they flow 324 @ .700 on our SF1020 bench. With solid rollers from Comp with .696 gross lift (.670 net of lash). They deliver 613-618 HP pretty consistantly on a DTS dyno. Unless I am way off - your expectations are valid and the computer program is rather "optimistic"...
I would be pleased if it did make 600 hp n.a. Our nitrous setup can go to 250 hp, but that is the limit of the Probe pistons, so at the most I will run 200 hp shot of nitrous. My goal is to run 10.1 to 10.3 e.t. , so I will only use enough nitrous to get it to that e.t. I am guessing that I can get there with about 100 hp nitrous. We will see.
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theres a guy on yellow bullet that has a modular 281ci engine that he says dynoed 2335hp... "Our 281 inch modular has gone 6.31 @ 224, on gasoline and at 2550#. We run the OEM aluminum block and the OEM 4V heads, and twin 78MM turbos, pull 2335 HP at 9200 RPM. That's 8.3 horse per cubic inch, on gasoline." if those numbers are true, thats some serious ford power.
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Well Guys Kaase still has on the burner some plans for the FE guys in the future..I know they took a back seat to his release of the P-51 (385 series) Heads and the Street version of his B9 heads for the BBF guys...
But I'am sure when they hit the market..there gonna rattle some cages !
But I'am sure when they hit the market..there gonna rattle some cages !
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theres a guy on yellow bullet that has a modular 281ci engine that he says dynoed 2335hp... "Our 281 inch modular has gone 6.31 @ 224, on gasoline and at 2550#. We run the OEM aluminum block and the OEM 4V heads, and twin 78MM turbos, pull 2335 HP at 9200 RPM. That's 8.3 horse per cubic inch, on gasoline." if those numbers are true, thats some serious ford power.
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I can't see why you can't make an easy 600 hp. My 428 isn't anything special, real basic Eboks 280/220 @ .600 lift. 12.5:1, .63 solid tappet makes over 550. Never dyno'd, but the mph numbers put it up there. My car is 4100#, gone 11.2 @120, so take 1000# and you're going low 10's easy.
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Anything over 500 hp on the street is a hand full. I can not imagine trying to hold on to over 2000 hp even at a track. You would have a missile with wheels.
For any block manufactured for stock use, to hold that much horsepower, is difficult for this old man to comprehend.
For any block manufactured for stock use, to hold that much horsepower, is difficult for this old man to comprehend.
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I can't see why you can't make an easy 600 hp. My 428 isn't anything special, real basic Eboks 280/220 @ .600 lift. 12.5:1, .63 solid tappet makes over 550. Never dyno'd, but the mph numbers put it up there. My car is 4100#, gone 11.2 @120, so take 1000# and you're going low 10's easy.
I remember the engine was laying down on top end due to point bounce near 6500 rpm.
Back then I did not have the money to buy all new parts, so I ran what I had and could afford.
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You are probably right. 20 years ago when the Falcon ran 10.79 @ 125 mph, it was with old tires and dual points and home made junk shifter. Now we have new slicks, new TCI shifter, new MSD distributor and ignition.
I remember the engine was laying down on top end due to point bounce near 6500 rpm.
Back then I did not have the money to buy all new parts, so I ran what I had and could afford.
I remember the engine was laying down on top end due to point bounce near 6500 rpm.
Back then I did not have the money to buy all new parts, so I ran what I had and could afford.
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We all try to make our cars as safe as possible, and leave the rest to God.
But, thanks for the heads up.... Racing is dangerous.
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Have to say that back when those cars were "new", that the technology wasn't there to be very safe. They bolted stuff on and went as fast as they could. Anyone that actually races one in some capacity today will have much safer/better parts in them.
I have a friend that runs a Bolt clone and it's a far cry from anything 1964(besides the FE) and it goes 9.80. My wagon surely wasn't designed to go 120mph but I do it with one hand on the wheel all the time.
I have a friend that runs a Bolt clone and it's a far cry from anything 1964(besides the FE) and it goes 9.80. My wagon surely wasn't designed to go 120mph but I do it with one hand on the wheel all the time.
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