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From: E Washington
why does 1/4 mile time count?????? If you do not like the power or towing or braking then sell your ford and go get a scooter. You really should just sell it and get yourself a cheby or dodge then if they are soooooo much better. sorry but for gods sake if you have nothing good to say move along.
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Isn't this the same line that has been given since the beginning of time? How far out of whack are the Ford prices compared to everyone else?
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Is there so little to talk about that we have to go back to this again? 0-60 times in a truck are as rediculous as comparing the cornering abilities of a 4x4 and mustang. Does the Ford have less HP / TQ? Yes. The numbers have been posted on this very site detailing the abilities of the main 4 full size trucks. The Ford out pulls and out tows all of them. It's slower in the 0-60 by a second. Big whoop.
Tim
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Ford does not outpull or out tow any of them. Did you not see the test results from the challenge? Ford was dead last in every category involving the very thing you boast about the F150.
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Excaliber what size trailer and weight are you pulling to need figures of 400+hp?? I see people day in day out on sites that have half that power and cope with it just fine. The 5.4 is a great engine and does what any other 5.4 can do. Ok it may not be as powerful as the 6.0+ engines but then again it's not designed to be. The market is extremly limited for 6.0+ engines. GM is bleeding money and they are doing R&D on trucks that no one buys!! Would you want ford to be in the same boat as GM. When people need that extra power to tow they will normally step upto a SD as i would if my trailer was any bigger. A bigger engine would gain me nothing but a higher price tag. But if you really are one of the very very very few people that want a f150 to tow faster 0-60 and qtr mile and still be in a quality ford truck then they do a SC kit that is perfect for this.
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And some people, like me, don't even want or need a V-8. I just want a base model V-6 work truck, auto&A/C. It gets me around, OK on gas, pulls my boat, holds my tools, can fit lumber and anything I want in the 8ft bed etc. etc. So for me these tests don't mean too much. I think if they tested everyones base model work truck it would be interesting.
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Tow ratings are just a number. I doubt any of the half tons really tows more than the other by much of a margin. If you really need to tow 11,000 pounds you had better be using a 3/4 ton truck.
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I don't pull any trailer right now. All I need a truck for is getting my Cart and Decoys to the field. Eventually I'll be pulling a small 12 or 14 foot trailer and eventually I'd like to have a camper in the 24-27 foot range.
I have a boat I pull all over to fish out of.
It's not a matter of needing a bigger engine. Why have the least powered engine when you can have one that has much more power and gets the same mileage and is faster for the same money or less.
I have a boat I pull all over to fish out of.
It's not a matter of needing a bigger engine. Why have the least powered engine when you can have one that has much more power and gets the same mileage and is faster for the same money or less.
Excaliber what size trailer and weight are you pulling to need figures of 400+hp?? I see people day in day out on sites that have half that power and cope with it just fine. The 5.4 is a great engine and does what any other 5.4 can do. Ok it may not be as powerful as the 6.0+ engines but then again it's not designed to be. The market is extremly limited for 6.0+ engines. GM is bleeding money and they are doing R&D on trucks that no one buys!! Would you want ford to be in the same boat as GM. When people need that extra power to tow they will normally step upto a SD as i would if my trailer was any bigger. A bigger engine would gain me nothing but a higher price tag. But if you really are one of the very very very few people that want a f150 to tow faster 0-60 and qtr mile and still be in a quality ford truck then they do a SC kit that is perfect for this.
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The same goes for the power figures of these trucks. They are just numbers but some people seem over worried about them. You could have 1000bhp to tow with and you could have 30000lb towing capacity. Neither of them will be needed so why have them. I wouldnt try and do anymore weight than my trailer on my truck and i know for that reason i will not need anymore than the 5.4 offers. If i do then i get a bigger truck that can handle bigger trailer and more weight. Im sure though that some idiots will try and tow 11000 and yes the extra bhp will help but it wont be needed. So as Tim as already said there aint a half ton that can tow what the ford tows.
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Your dodging the bullet. The F-150 reg cab 4x2 is "rated" at 11,300 lbs. This rating comes at the heels of Fords trailer brake and anti sway goodies that no one else offers. I will agree with you however that a 3/4 ton truck would be more suitable for a 5 1/2 ton task.
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I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on the 5.4.
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I don't pull any trailer right now. All I need a truck for is getting my Cart and Decoys to the field. Eventually I'll be pulling a small 12 or 14 foot trailer and eventually I'd like to have a camper in the 24-27 foot range.
I have a boat I pull all over to fish out of.
It's not a matter of needing a bigger engine. Why have the least powered engine when you can have one that has much more power and gets the same mileage and is faster for the same money or less.
I have a boat I pull all over to fish out of.
It's not a matter of needing a bigger engine. Why have the least powered engine when you can have one that has much more power and gets the same mileage and is faster for the same money or less.
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From: Langham, SK
I pull a 27ft 8000lbs camper with my 5.4l and it pulls it great. I have no trouble keeping up with traffic off of a light. How does that saying go again " slow and steady wins the race"!!! light.
If you look at how many 6.0l or 6.2l Gm sells compared to the 5.3l in there trucks(at least around here), I bet at least 90% are 5.3l and even though the 5.4l has a little lest hp than the 5.3l it has more tq and can pull more!
If you look at how many 6.0l or 6.2l Gm sells compared to the 5.3l in there trucks(at least around here), I bet at least 90% are 5.3l and even though the 5.4l has a little lest hp than the 5.3l it has more tq and can pull more!
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How long do you spend accelerating verses cruising? the one second does not mean much, and neither does the extra power when it wouldn't be used, unless you are racing, and if thats what you do you have the wrong king of vehicle. Ford has a reliable proven truck with a proven power-train. I have checked out the 09 now in person and it has a nicer interior than its the 08 and much more comfortable seats. The ride and handling were similar, but even with just 10 more hp it feels much stronger. If you go out and check all the 1/2 tons out first hand and stop reading articles, I think that you will find that overall the F-150 is the best in the segment.
I could care less about articles especially ones touting new vehicles.
I like the 09 F150. I just wont buy one with a 5.4 in it and I wont buy a first year model Ford.
I'll wait for the Ecoboost to come out.