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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 03:44 PM
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I just got back from looking at the new Rangers. Truthfully, I have not been following the newer trucks too much. I’ve been happy with mine since 2003. Man, that dealership like walking into a lion's den! LOL

Anyway, why did they drop the 3.0 Vulcan motor?

I think this was a mistake on their part.

Stopping the Vulcan would be like Chrysler if they dropped the old Slant Six way before it’s time.

Was anyone else disappointed to hear this?

I have a Flex Fuel in my ’99 4X4 and it seems to be pretty rugged. Granted the 3.0 doesn’t exactly pull the front wheels of the ground, but I’ve managed almost 24MPG on the highway and I like having the cast iron block and heads too.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 04:14 PM
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It's usually an emissions change for the later years. That's why Chrysler dumped the straight 6. They're calling it a dirty motor. Couldn't make the emissions grade for 2008.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 07:17 PM
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Now that's a shame. The 3.0L is solid, fast, and good on fuel.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Flexfuel-Dave
I just got back from looking at the new Rangers. Truthfully, I have not been following the newer trucks too much. I’ve been happy with mine since 2003. Man, that dealership like walking into a lion's den! LOL

Anyway, why did they drop the 3.0 Vulcan motor?

I think this was a mistake on their part.

Stopping the Vulcan would be like Chrysler if they dropped the old Slant Six way before it’s time.

Was anyone else disappointed to hear this?

I have a Flex Fuel in my ’99 4X4 and it seems to be pretty rugged. Granted the 3.0 doesn’t exactly pull the front wheels of the ground, but I’ve managed almost 24MPG on the highway and I like having the cast iron block and heads too.
So what did you think about the 2009 Rangers? I haven't been keeping up with the newer ones either, although I've seen some on the road and like what I see! I have a love/hate relationship with the 3.0 vulcan. It runs like a top, tough as nails, but aint got enough power to stay out of its own way. Having said that, I think its a great engine and have never heard anything negative about their overall durability. I personally would like to see a new 3.0 engine with more ponies and torque with the same reliability!

PS you are getting some good mileage with your 3.0, I get 22 mpg at the best, usually average 20 though.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 07:24 PM
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IMO, it's understandable that the venerable vulcan is finally being retired. It's been a great engine and has served Ford extremely well for over 2 decades. But in terms of performance and MPG, it's old technology (just like my 4.0L OHV). Time to move on.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 09:46 PM
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PS you are getting some good mileage with your 3.0, I get 22 mpg at the best, usually average 20 though.
I managed 23+ by driving a steady 60MPH when the speed limit was 65. Granted (everyone else was driving like 75 and) it seemed like life was passing me by. I just stayed in the slow lane. This was during the summer months and the best I averaged was like 23.6 MPG. This was when gas was like $4/gallon, so I was saving like $6-7 a week not speeding. When summer ended the mileage dropped to about 22.

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IMO, it's understandable that the venerable vulcan is finally being retired. It's been a great engine and has served Ford extremely well for over 2 decades. But in terms of performance and MPG, it's old technology (just like my 4.0L OHV). Time to move on.
I really hate to see it go. It might have been more justified to build when there were high volume Taurus and Sable cars using them.

The sales guy said no more 3.0 motors for the Ranger. I asked for a sales brochure and he brought me one from the 2008 model year.

They only had one new Ranger on the lot. The weird part was that it looked like my 1999 Ranger's twin. Same color combo, body sytle and options, just bran spankin new with those 16-inch Y-Spoke wheels and the 4.0 motor.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 10:25 PM
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I really hate to see it go. It might have been more justified to build when there were high volume Taurus and Sable cars using them.
That's a good point.

But let's face it, there simply isn't anything more that Ford can squeeze out of the vulcan. The ultra-important variables of (1) fuel economy and (2) performance, have been maximized.

Newer technologies can and do offer more options. The Ford 3.5L Duratec engine is a good example.
 
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Old Nov 21, 2008 | 10:00 AM
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The problem with the 3.0 is it had the same power as the duratec 2.3, "more or less". Now ford has come out with the dratec 2.5 at 170 hp, which is more than the 3.0. With the 3.0 getting about the same mpg as the 4.0, there's no need for it. I don't miss it at all, I would rather have a 4 cylinder than the 3.slow and for a 4x4, it's the 4.0 all the way. The 3.0 was a good dependable engine, but very outdated and sorta useless in my opinion compared to the other modern ranger engine offerings. Even the 2.9 had a more usable power band than the 3.0.
 
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Old Nov 22, 2008 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by wendell borror
The problem with the 3.0 is it had the same power as the duratec 2.3, "more or less". Now ford has come out with the dratec 2.5 at 170 hp, which is more than the 3.0. With the 3.0 getting about the same mpg as the 4.0, there's no need for it.
This Ranger is my first pickup truck. I'm going to have to drive a 4.0 with the automatic and see what the seat of the seats difference feels like. I know that when going up hills it was really hurting for more power.
I wonder if the 4.0 would get better mileage than the 3.0 under the same working conditions, like pulling a boat?

If the 4.0 is going to be as reliable and rugged as the 3.0, it's almost a win-win situation.
 
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Old Nov 22, 2008 | 10:52 AM
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Yeah, you'll feel the difference when you mash on the gas. The 4.0 may do a little better on gas pulling your boat as the engine won't have to labor as hard. I believe once you drive a 4.0 powered ranger, you won't miss the 3.0. It's still basically the same dependable old 4.0 they've made since 91, except now it has over head cams, still the same old bottom block. You'll like the 207 hp, but you'll love the 238 pounds of torque, especially when pulling that boat.
 
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Old Nov 22, 2008 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by wendell borror
Yeah, you'll feel the difference when you mash on the gas. The 4.0 may do a little better on gas pulling your boat as the engine won't have to labor as hard. I believe once you drive a 4.0 powered ranger, you won't miss the 3.0. It's still basically the same dependable old 4.0 they've made since 91, except now it has over head cams, still the same old bottom block. You'll like the 207 hp, but you'll love the 238 pounds of torque, especially when pulling that boat.
I wonder how much power is actually getting to the rear wheels? The numbers do sound good!
 
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Old Nov 22, 2008 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by wendell borror
You'll like the 207 hp, but you'll love the 238 pounds of torque, especially when pulling that boat.
Another good thing about the 4.0 is that the aftermarket offers parts for it.

After only owning the 3.0, I'm ignorant of the 4.0 motor's potential.

There might be ways of modifying and tuning the 4.0. It would be fun getting it to make more power and be more efficient.

I just kind of hate seeing the Vulcan removed from the line up. This is just about progression, I guess.
 
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