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Old Oct 5, 2013 | 09:02 PM
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Misk, tried to rep you for that heads up, but I'm in rep jail.

Good thinking!

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I thought for sure you would have a get out of jail free card.
 
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Old Oct 5, 2013 | 10:46 PM
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I thought for sure you would have a get out of jail free card.
Nope. Unfortunately we're held to the same constraints as a regular user.

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Old Jan 24, 2014 | 12:29 PM
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Has anyone put a leverage link dual shock system on their X?

Rize Industries LLC - Specializing in custom bolt-on suspension lift kits and accessories.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2014 | 03:03 PM
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Has anyone put a leverage link dual shock system on their X? Rize Industries LLC - Specializing in custom bolt-on suspension lift kits and accessories.
Those are crazy looking
 
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Old Jan 24, 2014 | 09:49 PM
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Those are crazy looking
Talk about "outside the box" thinking!

Very nice!!

Someone hit the lottery and buy me a set for my truck!!

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Old Jan 25, 2014 | 03:05 PM
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Those are pretty damn cool. Wonder how much they cost.
 
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Old Jan 25, 2014 | 04:56 PM
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Those are pretty damn cool. Wonder how much they cost.
Probably more than I would ever pay.
 
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Old Jan 28, 2014 | 05:27 PM
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This creeper will take two!!! Those are sweet looking!!! Lol
Hi guys!! Lol
 
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Old Oct 23, 2017 | 09:47 PM
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I took an Ex for a test ride the other night and ended up buying it. The wander was noticeable, and I recall reading about it here so thought I'd look more deeply into this thread. Wow, it's daunting. There's just so much.
 
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Old Oct 23, 2017 | 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Tempus Prime
I took an Ex for a test ride the other night and ended up buying it. The wander was noticeable, and I recall reading about it here so thought I'd look more deeply into this thread. Wow, it's daunting. There's just so much.

It's actually fairly simple but can get expensive.
Basically take it in for an an alignment and ask that they inspect leaf springs for sag, bump stops, shocks, brakes, unit bearings,steering box, TRE's and tires for worn items.

For springs the Stock height 4x4 should be 23" front and 24" rear as measured from hub center to bottom of fender arch.

Once the front end is tight and to spec insist they set caster at 5*
Do not settle on its within "spec" needs to be 5* or find another shop.
 
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Old Oct 23, 2017 | 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by nmlewis
Has anyone put a leverage link dual shock system on their X?

Rize Industries LLC - Specializing in custom bolt-on suspension lift kits and accessories.
No reason other then looks for the Ex, there is plenty of room to mount long travel shocks in the conventional orientation.

That said, have used a cantilever setup in other applications where space is an issue.
 
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Old Oct 23, 2017 | 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by pirate4x4_camo
It's actually fairly simple but can get expensive.
Basically take it in for an an alignment and ask that they inspect leaf springs for sag, bump stops, shocks, brakes, unit bearings,steering box, TRE's and tires for worn items.

For springs the Stock height 4x4 should be 23" front and 24" rear as measured from hub center to bottom of fender arch.

Once the front end is tight and to spec insist they set caster at 5*
Do not settle on its within "spec" needs to be 5* or find another shop.
Terrific advice...thank you.
 
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Old Oct 23, 2017 | 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by pirate4x4_camo
No reason other then looks for the Ex, there is plenty of room to mount long travel shocks in the conventional orientation.

That said, have used a cantilever setup in other applications where space is an issue.
I saw this posted on another wander thread...looks cool. I don't see any prices though.
 
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Old Oct 23, 2017 | 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Tempus Prime
I saw this posted on another wander thread...looks cool. I don't see any prices though.
Be carful with wander threads, especially the older ones as there were/are many people guessing as to the cause and several companies that make bolt on gadgets to "fix" whatever ails you. Skip the snake oil sales and fix your wander by fixing any worn out items and then set your caster at 5*

Fwiw... caster really is the answer but it can not be set correctly until you have the proper ride height set and no play in the ball joints. The other items I listed all contribute to or set wander in motion but it is caster that keeps a vehicle tracking straight.

Ford set the caster on the Ex at 3.5* and spec is 3.5* +/- 2*
The problem is 3.5* is borderline being enough, when your springs sag and caster is now 3* coupled with a few loose items like wheelbearings and or tie rod ends the Ex starts to wanders like a drunk sailor.
 
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Old Oct 23, 2017 | 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by pirate4x4_camo
Be carful with wander threads, especially the older ones as there were/are many people guessing as to the cause and several companies that make bolt on gadgets to "fix" whatever ails you. Skip the snake oil sales and fix your wander by fixing any worn out items and then set your caster at 5*

Fwiw... caster really is the answer but it can not be set correctly until you have the proper ride height set and no play in the ball joints. The other items I listed all contribute to or set wander in motion but it is caster that keeps a vehicle tracking straight.

Ford set the caster on the Ex at 3.5* and spec is 3.5* +/- 2*
The problem is 3.5* is borderline being enough, when your springs sag and caster is now 3* coupled with a few loose items like wheelbearings and or tie rod ends the Ex starts to wanders like a drunk sailor.
I have no idea what caster is... something else to research.

Oh yeah, I'm in the Navy, but not as drunk these days as I was when a young man
 
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