Comprehensive "Steering Wander" Thread Compilation (and Excursion leaf spring spreadhseet)
#61
Hey guys, sorry. I've been out enjoying my NEW ride..
Ok in short I added
Front:
V codes
Icon 3.5 Hanger/Shackle Kit
Bash Bar
Dual Bilsteins
Adjustable track bar that I'm not sure I'm tracking right yet (Input?)
Dual Bilstein steering stabilizers
Extended endlinks
Rear:
B codes Modded
4" Tapered 3" wide steel blocks
Bilsteins
F350 sway bar w/extended end links
Suspension bushings on the Sway, the OEM were soft.
I'll post part numbers from Ford for all the parts, right down to the U-bolts and nuts for the F350 sway... LOL
The truck rides like a completely different truck. I haven't towed yet but this weekend I might hook up my 27' Hauler and see how she is @ 65.
Any advice on the Track bar?
http://s1078.photobucket.com/user/c5...rd%20Excursion
Ok in short I added
Front:
V codes
Icon 3.5 Hanger/Shackle Kit
Bash Bar
Dual Bilsteins
Adjustable track bar that I'm not sure I'm tracking right yet (Input?)
Dual Bilstein steering stabilizers
Extended endlinks
Rear:
B codes Modded
4" Tapered 3" wide steel blocks
Bilsteins
F350 sway bar w/extended end links
Suspension bushings on the Sway, the OEM were soft.
I'll post part numbers from Ford for all the parts, right down to the U-bolts and nuts for the F350 sway... LOL
The truck rides like a completely different truck. I haven't towed yet but this weekend I might hook up my 27' Hauler and see how she is @ 65.
Any advice on the Track bar?
http://s1078.photobucket.com/user/c5...rd%20Excursion
Last edited by Stewart_H; 04-25-2013 at 09:54 AM. Reason: Per OP's request to replace dead pic links
#62
I was looking at 18" Rockstars with the Toyo Open Country M/T 35" Tires but my buddies are scaring me with the obvious issues, MPG & Ride. Those 10Plys will hum and will slow me down from what they're telling me... Any input on the wheel setup? Anyone?
#63
Hey guys, sorry. I've been out enjoying my NEW ride..
Ok in short I added
Front:
V codes
Icon 3.5 Hanger/Shackle Kit
Bash Bar
Dual Bilsteins
Adjustable track bar that I'm not sure I'm tracking right yet (Input?)
Dual Bilstein steering stabilizers
Extended endlinks
Rear:
B codes Modded
4" Tapered 3" wide steel blocks
Bilsteins
F350 sway bar w/extended end links
Suspension bushings on the Sway, the OEM were soft.
I'll post part numbers from Ford for all the parts, right down to the U-bolts and nuts for the F350 sway... LOL
The truck rides like a completely different truck. I haven't towed yet but this weekend I might hook up my 27' Hauler and see how she is @ 65.
Any advice on the Track bar?
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Ok in short I added
Front:
V codes
Icon 3.5 Hanger/Shackle Kit
Bash Bar
Dual Bilsteins
Adjustable track bar that I'm not sure I'm tracking right yet (Input?)
Dual Bilstein steering stabilizers
Extended endlinks
Rear:
B codes Modded
4" Tapered 3" wide steel blocks
Bilsteins
F350 sway bar w/extended end links
Suspension bushings on the Sway, the OEM were soft.
I'll post part numbers from Ford for all the parts, right down to the U-bolts and nuts for the F350 sway... LOL
The truck rides like a completely different truck. I haven't towed yet but this weekend I might hook up my 27' Hauler and see how she is @ 65.
Any advice on the Track bar?
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1. Check to make sure you have the correct Pan-Rod Bar.
3-9290 is used for 3”, 4.5”, 6” and
8” lifts. 10.5” and 12.5” lifts require the use of part number 3-9350.
8” lifts. 10.5” and 12.5” lifts require the use of part number 3-9350.
2.
ENSURE TRUCK IS IN GEAR OR IN PARK, SET PARKING BRAKE, TURN OFF ENGINE
AND CHOCK TIRES!
AND CHOCK TIRES!
3. Remove factory Pan-rod bar. Note the proper location of each factory bolt and nut and set
aside for later use during reinstallation.
4. With the stock pan-rod bar removed, the truck must be at static ride height to install the new
pan-rod bar. To ensure static ride height, back the truck up 10 feet and move forward 10 feet.
5.
aside for later use during reinstallation.
4. With the stock pan-rod bar removed, the truck must be at static ride height to install the new
pan-rod bar. To ensure static ride height, back the truck up 10 feet and move forward 10 feet.
5.
ENSURE TRUCK IS IN GEAR OR IN PARK, SET PARKING BRAKE, TURN OFF ENGINE
AND CHOCK TIRES!
AND CHOCK TIRES!
6. Remove bushings and sleeves from the supplied hardware kit and install two bushings and
one sleeve per rod end.
7. Your adjustable pan rod bar has right hand and left hand threads. Adjust the new
one sleeve per rod end.
7. Your adjustable pan rod bar has right hand and left hand threads. Adjust the new
ICON
Vehicle Dynamics Pan-Rod Bar to fit your application by twisting the pan-rod bar to
lengthen and shorten. ***EACH ROD END HAS 3.25” OF THREAD, ENSURE A MINIMUM
OF 1” OF THREAD PER SIDE IS THREADED INTO THE PAN-ROD BAR!***
Vehicle Dynamics Pan-Rod Bar to fit your application by twisting the pan-rod bar to
lengthen and shorten. ***EACH ROD END HAS 3.25” OF THREAD, ENSURE A MINIMUM
OF 1” OF THREAD PER SIDE IS THREADED INTO THE PAN-ROD BAR!***
8. Test-fit the pan-rod bar to ensure proper hole alignment.
9. Install the pan-rod bar into the appropriate mounting locations using the stock bolts and nuts.
Be sure to use
9. Install the pan-rod bar into the appropriate mounting locations using the stock bolts and nuts.
Be sure to use
RED LOC TIGHT 271. Torque bolts to 369 lb-ft of torque (FORD factory
specifications). It is critical that the pan-rod bar does not shift or wiggle inside brackets.
Improper tightening will result in a “clunking” sound when turning.
10. *Important* Once the pan-rod bar is mounted, use RED LOC TIGHT 271 and tighten the jam
nuts on each rod end against the pan-rod bar surface to 300 lb-ft of torque.
specifications). It is critical that the pan-rod bar does not shift or wiggle inside brackets.
Improper tightening will result in a “clunking” sound when turning.
10. *Important* Once the pan-rod bar is mounted, use RED LOC TIGHT 271 and tighten the jam
nuts on each rod end against the pan-rod bar surface to 300 lb-ft of torque.
RETORQUE ALL NUTS, BOLTS AND LUGS AFTER 100 MILES AND PERIODICALLY THEREAFTER.
#64
Let me tell you, picking out rims is a B!@#$! There are so many to choose from that I get a headache searching Ebay... LOL
I was looking at 18" Rockstars with the Toyo Open Country M/T 35" Tires but my buddies are scaring me with the obvious issues, MPG & Ride. Those 10Plys will hum and will slow me down from what they're telling me... Any input on the wheel setup? Anyone?
I was looking at 18" Rockstars with the Toyo Open Country M/T 35" Tires but my buddies are scaring me with the obvious issues, MPG & Ride. Those 10Plys will hum and will slow me down from what they're telling me... Any input on the wheel setup? Anyone?
The 3 main criteria I found for rims where:
<TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top>4.5" Back Spacing on the rims to prevent rubbing
8x70mm bolt patter on rims
Min rating of 3000lbs rating on rims, higher is better.
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
This Toyo tire application worksheet helped me out alot along with tirerack.com in selecting tire size.
http://toyotires.com/print/tires/suv...k/full/OPAT/95
#65
V & B Code, Icon & Bilstein -Part Numbers
Ford Parts
V Code
2C3Z-5310-HA $196.33
B Code
3C3Z-5560-CB $246.83
Longer Leaf center bolt and U-bolts purchased locally.
Rear 30MM Sway Bar (For all the X's without a sway bar)
F81Z-5A772-AA Rear F350 Sway Bar - $130.05
W520113-S441 Sway bar Nuts (4x) $12.75 ea.
1C3Z-5705-AA U-bolts (2x) $18.70 ea.
7C3Z-5B498-A Bracket-Stab (2x) $7.78 ea.
F81Z-5486-BA Retainer (2x) $14.28
Rear Parking Sensor for who might need one.
1L1Z-15K859-AA Rear Park Sensor $127.14 ea.
Any Off Road Parts 1-888-205-1915
Icon 3" Front Lift
33099 3" Hanger Kit (Front)
33050 Bash Bar
33600 Sway Bar End Links (for use with lift blocks)
Sky Jacker front extended end links for the factory front sway bar.
Custom Trac Bar from Cudadart (Ebayer)
TopGun Customs 1-877-274-9362 (Ebayer)
Dual Bilstein Steer Stabilizer w/TopGunCustom's Axle Bracket
4" Rear Tapered - 3" wide Blocks
Dual Front Shock Mount - 439210
Dual Front Bilstein Shocks 4-6" lift (4x) 33-104645
Rear Bilsteins 3-5" lift (2x) 33-151656
To assist with my stubborn bolts I used a 3' - 2" black pipe, on the breaker bar for leverage and lots of PB. All the bolts loosened up with ease after PB'd except the two AC line bolts that snapped. I just used two self-taping screws and sprayed them black.
For the front passenger side frame/shackle bolt, blocked by the Exhaust Y-Pipe, I cut a small section out and completed the install. After completing, I purchased (2x) 3" exhaust pipe couplers and (4x) 3" exhaust claps for a temp fix. The exhaust manifold bolts started to tweak/snap and the weld in was a lot less expensive than having the manifold replaced or tapped and rethreaded for new bolts... Since I was having the repair, I added in a less restrictive Y-pipe mod, purchased on Ebay. It eliminates those two small exhaust chokes in the Y pipe, allowing more ehaust flow. I noticed a 2-mpg increase from this Y-pipe mod, for all that care about MPG. ($80 off ebay)
(Looking at this picture, the Head of the blocked bolt is just left of the letters RPN stamped on leaf spring.)
http://s1078.photobucket.com/user/c5...rd%20Excursion
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A SPECIAL THANKS TO (CARY) CT PERFORMANCE, WHITE BUFFALO, ROBERT_I_ROSS & WPNAES FOR ALL YOUR TIME & INPUT.
YOU GUYS MADE MY SWAP A WALK IN THE PARK!!
CAN'T THANK YOU ENOUGH!
I also have to thank my "red solo cup, I fill you up, let's have a party, let's have a party". Without you my friend, I wouldn't have made it to the end...
LOL, for all of you that don't know the Red Solo Cup. (watch the video link below)
Toby Keith - Red Solo Cup Video
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V Code
2C3Z-5310-HA $196.33
B Code
3C3Z-5560-CB $246.83
Longer Leaf center bolt and U-bolts purchased locally.
Rear 30MM Sway Bar (For all the X's without a sway bar)
F81Z-5A772-AA Rear F350 Sway Bar - $130.05
W520113-S441 Sway bar Nuts (4x) $12.75 ea.
1C3Z-5705-AA U-bolts (2x) $18.70 ea.
7C3Z-5B498-A Bracket-Stab (2x) $7.78 ea.
F81Z-5486-BA Retainer (2x) $14.28
Rear Parking Sensor for who might need one.
1L1Z-15K859-AA Rear Park Sensor $127.14 ea.
Any Off Road Parts 1-888-205-1915
Icon 3" Front Lift
33099 3" Hanger Kit (Front)
33050 Bash Bar
33600 Sway Bar End Links (for use with lift blocks)
Sky Jacker front extended end links for the factory front sway bar.
Custom Trac Bar from Cudadart (Ebayer)
TopGun Customs 1-877-274-9362 (Ebayer)
Dual Bilstein Steer Stabilizer w/TopGunCustom's Axle Bracket
4" Rear Tapered - 3" wide Blocks
Dual Front Shock Mount - 439210
Dual Front Bilstein Shocks 4-6" lift (4x) 33-104645
Rear Bilsteins 3-5" lift (2x) 33-151656
To assist with my stubborn bolts I used a 3' - 2" black pipe, on the breaker bar for leverage and lots of PB. All the bolts loosened up with ease after PB'd except the two AC line bolts that snapped. I just used two self-taping screws and sprayed them black.
For the front passenger side frame/shackle bolt, blocked by the Exhaust Y-Pipe, I cut a small section out and completed the install. After completing, I purchased (2x) 3" exhaust pipe couplers and (4x) 3" exhaust claps for a temp fix. The exhaust manifold bolts started to tweak/snap and the weld in was a lot less expensive than having the manifold replaced or tapped and rethreaded for new bolts... Since I was having the repair, I added in a less restrictive Y-pipe mod, purchased on Ebay. It eliminates those two small exhaust chokes in the Y pipe, allowing more ehaust flow. I noticed a 2-mpg increase from this Y-pipe mod, for all that care about MPG. ($80 off ebay)
(Looking at this picture, the Head of the blocked bolt is just left of the letters RPN stamped on leaf spring.)
http://s1078.photobucket.com/user/c5...rd%20Excursion
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
A SPECIAL THANKS TO (CARY) CT PERFORMANCE, WHITE BUFFALO, ROBERT_I_ROSS & WPNAES FOR ALL YOUR TIME & INPUT.
YOU GUYS MADE MY SWAP A WALK IN THE PARK!!
CAN'T THANK YOU ENOUGH!
I also have to thank my "red solo cup, I fill you up, let's have a party, let's have a party". Without you my friend, I wouldn't have made it to the end...
LOL, for all of you that don't know the Red Solo Cup. (watch the video link below)
Toby Keith - Red Solo Cup Video
</EMBED>
Last edited by Stewart_H; 04-25-2013 at 09:56 AM. Reason: Per OP's request to replace dead pic links
#66
#67
Since you asked twice I will post twice...well just in case people come across this posting.
Here is the part number from my invoice for the longer U-bolts for the moded B-codes.
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Ford does not sell a center pin so I picked one up from the local spring shop. It was 6" long and I believe it was 7/16 of an inch.
The center bolt I got is a bit long but I didn't know what my end result was going to be. You can get away with a 5" bolt.
Tim M
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Here is the part number from my invoice for the longer U-bolts for the moded B-codes.
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Ford does not sell a center pin so I picked one up from the local spring shop. It was 6" long and I believe it was 7/16 of an inch.
The center bolt I got is a bit long but I didn't know what my end result was going to be. You can get away with a 5" bolt.
Tim M
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#68
I measured them after complition and had a local shop bend them up.
I could measure them up if you want. Plenty of creeper room under the truck now...
#70
We should point out that 2wd Excursions (at least my 2005)
have "S" code front *COIL* springs and "A" code rear leaf springs
Not sure if this is because in '05 the SD changed to coils or not,
but it really made my searches frustrating.
Stewart,
GREAT job of compiling all this info AND putting
in comments next to the links.
have "S" code front *COIL* springs and "A" code rear leaf springs
Not sure if this is because in '05 the SD changed to coils or not,
but it really made my searches frustrating.
Stewart,
GREAT job of compiling all this info AND putting
in comments next to the links.
#71