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Old Oct 29, 2008 | 11:58 PM
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What is the difference between Stage 1 and Stage 2? Both seem to be 160cc.
The difference is the nozzles. Stage 1s usually come in the 160cc's and stock nozzles. While the stage 2s, usually come with 160cc's and enlarged nozzles. Which allow them to flow 160 cc's faster which in turn allows them to make more power.
 
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Old Oct 30, 2008 | 12:15 AM
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The difference is the nozzles. Stage 1s usually come in the 160cc's and stock nozzles. While the stage 2s, usually come with 160cc's and enlarged nozzles. Which allow them to flow 160 cc's faster which in turn allows them to make more power.
Which of these two would be better suited for towing (with a Garrett 38R) or would the hybrid be the better choice considering that I do not want to exceed 400 hp due to my PMRs?
 
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Old Oct 30, 2008 | 12:20 AM
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I am considering the Turbonetics BB or the Garrett BB turbos
Mike AKA "Speedy" is right about the Turbonetics TN 11117-BB turbo. They no longer make them. Zero in on the Garrett.
 
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I have Swamps hybrids. 200cc units. Check out my sig for power #s. As for the turbo, get the Garrett. The other unit is no longer in production.
 
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Old Oct 30, 2008 | 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by uliman
Which of these two would be better suited for towing (with a Garrett 38R) or would the hybrid be the better choice considering that I do not want to exceed 400 hp due to my PMRs?
Better for towing is ultimately up to the tuner, but physically the stage 1's, or hybrids with stock nozzles are. It seems most people with PMRs, and lasting PMRs have stock nozzles. Ultimately its your choice. If you never plan to make more power then about 350 hp, then the stage 1's are your choice. If someday you are thinking about going into the 500 range, the hybrids would be your choice. Reason being, with the correct tuning, hybrids could actually make less hp then stock. (So they can be detuned, to be safe for PMRs, and with stock nozzles would be great for towing.) The larger nozzles, (stage 2's) generally speaking, would smoke a little more, and have the possibility to have slightly higher egts. But like I said, all of this is ultimately up to what you ask from your tuner. So if your planning one day to exceed 350 hp, it would be a good idea, to only have to buy injectors once, and get hybrids. Then when you put a good set of rods in your truck, you already have the fuel capability, you just need your tuning updated, which would be much cheaper then another set of injectors.


EDIT: For instance, Mike, (Tenn01PSD) right above me has hyrbids, turned down by Jody. Exactly whats on his truck could possibly make upto 500 hp, if his rods would hold through it. Stock nozzles really seem to be the best thing for a factory bottom end. Just my .02
 
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