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Beans Diesel Question
Does any member here have the e-mail address for Beans Diesel? The one listed on the site does not work for me; AOL returned the email. I asked the following questions:
Good Day,
I have a 2001 F350 DRW CrewCab 4x4 4R100 with the following modifications: 4" MBRP, DP Tuner (40T,60T,80E), AFE CAI Stg 2.
I use the vehicle primarily for towing one of two horse trailers (the first one is 6 to 7k lbs, the other is 12k lbs).
I am considering the Turbonetics BB or the Garrett BB turbos in the next several months for my turbo upgrade. My question to you is should I get the Stage I single shot injectors or the Stage II. Both seem to flow 160cc but the IIs have a larger nozzle.
I'm pretty sure that I have powdered metal rods so I need to keep my hp to 400 or less. Please advise as to your suggestion for my particular needs. I certainly would need to re-burn my DP Tuner chip when all of this goes in.
Thanks, Ulrich Smith
If any member has any thoughts as well I would appreciate it. Thanks
Good Day,
I have a 2001 F350 DRW CrewCab 4x4 4R100 with the following modifications: 4" MBRP, DP Tuner (40T,60T,80E), AFE CAI Stg 2.
I use the vehicle primarily for towing one of two horse trailers (the first one is 6 to 7k lbs, the other is 12k lbs).
I am considering the Turbonetics BB or the Garrett BB turbos in the next several months for my turbo upgrade. My question to you is should I get the Stage I single shot injectors or the Stage II. Both seem to flow 160cc but the IIs have a larger nozzle.
I'm pretty sure that I have powdered metal rods so I need to keep my hp to 400 or less. Please advise as to your suggestion for my particular needs. I certainly would need to re-burn my DP Tuner chip when all of this goes in.
Thanks, Ulrich Smith
If any member has any thoughts as well I would appreciate it. Thanks
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Larger nozzles will give you a bit more power, but will also smoke more, especially when towing. I would say stick with the stock nozzles so you don't constantly smoke out your horses and traffic. If you want more power than the 160cc singles will give you, then get hybrids with stock nozzles. They are very streetable with the 38R, and will tow like a beast. You can also de-tune hybrids, or any other injector, to stay around the 400 hp mark.
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Larger nozzles will give you a bit more power, but will also smoke more, especially when towing. I would say stick with the stock nozzles so you don't constantly smoke out your horses and traffic. If you want more power than the 160cc singles will give you, then get hybrids with stock nozzles. They are very streetable with the 38R, and will tow like a beast. You can also de-tune hybrids, or any other injector, to stay around the 400 hp mark.
It is a very careful decision to make because at over $2k for a set of new injectors, it is pricey to find out that this is not what you wanted.
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He would also most likely advise you to go the 38R route, as Im pretty certain that turbonetics has dropped their drop in for our trucks. I have pm'd Ryan, on powerstroke nation before and hes always responded, but maybe the best thing for you would be to give him a call?
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Is the truck a later build of 2001? The late 2001's to 2003.25 had split shot injection, which would definately require a reflash of the pcm. Single shots can flow more fuel, but you sacrifice quieter smoother running...
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All 99-03's have split shots, and many 97's did too. And yes, he would need his DP-Tuner programmed for the singles. As for quieter, the singles are only a bit louder at idle. Once you get off idle, they are both nearly identical.
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Thanks, I'll give them a call and ask. Prefer emails so the person responding has time on their hand when they answer but I'm pretty sure that I will do the 38R as has been suggested along with the single shot Stage I ACs. I'm beginning to drool already with anticipation.
I thought the 97 california models had split shots, whereas the 99-01 had single shots as well as 97 non cali models... or maybe that was pilot injection... We have a couple 99's that are running around and have the chunky sounding idle compared to the 02s...Learn something new everyday! Good info!
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AE(LL) was only installed by the dealership in 99-00 to solve customer complaints of injector noise. AE(LL) was factory installed in 01 to 03.
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Do you know what engine biuld date started with the factory installation of the LL injector? I have the '01 with a engine build date of Oct 13, '00. I purchased the truck in '02 with 45k miles and it didn't look like 'the engine had been gone into'.
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http://www.alliantpower.com/pdf/AP%2...on%20Guide.pdf
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What is the difference between Stage 1 and Stage 2? Both seem to be 160cc.
What is the difference between Stage 1 and Stage 2? Both seem to be 160cc.
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Here you go Roland, this the Alliant Power PDF. Make sure you read foot note 5 and 6 on the bottom of page 2
http://www.alliantpower.com/pdf/AP%2...on%20Guide.pdf
http://www.alliantpower.com/pdf/AP%2...on%20Guide.pdf
CCK should be taking care of the fuel delivery issues to this injector. I'll know for sure when I get the VC off. I don't think it has ever been removed though.