Well now see, there you go. Everyone knows that Area 51 is operated by the superior energy effects of dilithium crystals. You frenchy guys think you know everything...

 

i could be talked into believeing that....

 

So how concerned WILL you be about tire maintenance? This is one of the things that concerns me about this panacea that is N2 in tires...some folks will think they don't ever have to check their tire pressure again since they are being led to believe that N2 molecules are so big the tires will never lose air pressure. What about rim leaks, nail holes and leaking valve stems?

The Air Force puts jet fuel in their planes, should I run some in my F250?

I can tell you two things about the Air Force since I am IN the Air Force.....1. a lot of what is done in the Air Force is an absolute waste of money and 2. the Air Force DOES NOT put nitrogen in their truck tires, their HUMMV tires, their passenger car tires or their bicycle tires. Can we let the "Air Force puts it in the jet tires" arguement go?

 

Ray, if your F250 were a diesel, I bet it would run just fine on jet fuel...

Good point on the AF's "other" tires, though--that does let the air out of the argument a bit...

Jason

 

I check them as often as possible since it is my wife's car. I would consider N as I would insurance. All I can tell you is the tires in the expy have maintained PSI. Nothing more nothing less. The Perelli Scorpions and the Ford rims seem to be holding those giant molecules just fine.

I am providing my own real world experience. The choice is yours on whether to believe it or not. Your Air Force experience notwithstanding. I was in the USAF as well...but, I think it was about the time air was discovered...

Running over nails? I think that offers an entirely different scenario.

 

Sarcasm doesn't do you justice.

If you read everything I said earlier you'd see that I didn't say it was cost effective to put them in general automobile tires nor that the benefits were worth the price. It does have benefits however, and I guarantee you that commercial airliners wouldn't be wasting a cent on it if there wasn't a benefit, considering how tight margins are in the airline business.

Besides, why should I believe anyone in the Air Force? I hear from people on this forum that its full of people who waste money on stupid things!

 

I think I'll get better gas by putting helium in my tires, I'll just float to work.

 

Aviation Jet fuel (Jet-A, JP-8) will work in a diesel but you can expect your seals to leak on everything that touches the fuel. There are anti-foaming agents in it that deteriorate certain kinds of "cheap" rubber. Like the rubbers used in automotive manufacturing.

I was in and still work for the Air Force and have worked for the Army and Navy also Yes they do use nitrogen in tires. Mostly aircraft tires but some ground vehicles get it too. Actually only the expensive ground vehicles get it. The only reason they use it in aircraft tires is its anti-corrosion abilities. Aircraft wheels are of the split-rim variety and are under very high stress. A very small amount of corrosion can cause the wheel to fail, without warning.

I am an Aircraft Mechanic (Craftsman level) having had my hand in HH-60G/A/L, B-52, B-1B, F-16, UH-1N, F-4, F-14, S-3, H-53, H-3, H-2 also have worked Boeing 727, 737, 747, 707 and many, many other types of aircraft. My specialty is rotor-wing aircraft but I make a cross over to fixed wing when I get bored. I make over $70k a year and last year I cleared $224k as I did a year as a contractor in Iraq.

But hey, call me a dummy.

 

Question, what does a $70k/year income have to do with being a dummy? Maybe consider giving the credentials and leaving the salaries out because you may find that some folks here wouldn't accept a job with a wage that low and others may make half as much and dream of making $70k, but that isn't always an indicator of IQ! I know database guys who make consulting rates of $150 to $250 per hour in the states and they aren't all that smart! $70K would be considered mid-level salary in most parts of the country for IT work, many senior guys make much, much more than that -- some are brilliant and some are idiots so I don't think salary is a good indicator of smarts. What one accomplishes with their income... to me that means a lot more!

 

The primary reason why aircraft, especially large aircraft use nitrogen in the tires is because that gets rid of the oxygen inside the tire- Usually between the scuff of landing and the shear weight on the tire, the temps inside can get very close to the ignition point of the rubber. Add to that the fact that the rims are commonly magnesium (flammable and burns violently), and you have a good reason to have an inert environment.

In your own personal car, it's a wash. Most people who are concerned enough to run nitrogen filled tires probably won't gain anything noticeable from it- They'll either trade in their car before the tires wear out under normal use, or have the tires replaced before the tread life is up.

 

Are you sure?

Exactly why I wouldn't hold the Air Force up to be the gold standard for good ideas. Their 61 year history is loaded with bad ideas.....but at least they got the GPS thing right.

I should probably stick to unleaded for the time being although I bet it would burn pretty nicely if doused in jet fuel....the little problems are driving me nuts sometimes.

 

I heard that putting jet fuel in your blinker fluid reservoir will cause the turn signals to blink faster. I don't recommend doing this as it tends to confuse some drivers.

 

Dang, would that mean that you have to turn faster?

 

I heard that you could double your mileage by filling your tires with nitrogen and then adding 1.005% HHO......any truth to this?

 

umm well first i truely hope this is a joke...but what is HHO?