Nitrogen filled tires?
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I want to complain!
You want to complain! Look at these shoes. I've only had them three weeks and the heels are worn right through. If you complain nothing happens, you might as well not bother. And my back hurts, it's not a very fine day and I'm sick and tired of this office...
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yes, a classic, but they cut the clip short - they missed the complaint part:
I want to complain!
You want to complain! Look at these shoes. I've only had them three weeks and the heels are worn right through. If you complain nothing happens, you might as well not bother. And my back hurts, it's not a very fine day and I'm sick and tired of this office...
I want to complain!
You want to complain! Look at these shoes. I've only had them three weeks and the heels are worn right through. If you complain nothing happens, you might as well not bother. And my back hurts, it's not a very fine day and I'm sick and tired of this office...
Lead Driver
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From: in the woods of MA
Yeah, but I'm not letting back on track until I put in a plug for a bit they (MP) did called "It's The Brain", about deja vu. Anyone remember that one? That had to be one of my all time favorites... 
Lead Driver
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From: Scio, OR
The problem I see with using Nitrogen in my tires, is that I change pressure fairly often, whenever I change load. I can't afford the nitrogen in the first place, I certainly can't afford to go somewhere where they can put it in every time I want to load the camper, hook up a trailer, haul gravel, etc.
I does seem like it would make sense in the car though, where the pressure never needs to change.
I does seem like it would make sense in the car though, where the pressure never needs to change.
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Seems like I am sneaking into a deflated thread.......
My '08 Expy came with Nitro filled tires. Noting that not all gages are on spec....these tires are holding virtually same PSI since at least April this year, when I purchased the truck. I do not know if this is a dealer add or if the N came from the factory.
I think I am going to have N put in my wife's Cadillac tires. Mainly because they retail at approx $ 250.00 each. The only time I get close to the car is when it needs gas. N may be worth the price so I don't have to be that concerned about tire maintenance.
My '08 Expy came with Nitro filled tires. Noting that not all gages are on spec....these tires are holding virtually same PSI since at least April this year, when I purchased the truck. I do not know if this is a dealer add or if the N came from the factory.
I think I am going to have N put in my wife's Cadillac tires. Mainly because they retail at approx $ 250.00 each. The only time I get close to the car is when it needs gas. N may be worth the price so I don't have to be that concerned about tire maintenance.
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Okay, this has gone on long enough. Ever hear of the Ideal Gas Law? Perv - nert? PV=nRT? Heat capacity of air is 1004 Btu/lbm-R, nitrogen is 1041, and oxygen is 916. Virtually the same. No differ-ance, wie miseur?
Go ahead, get some N2 for yer tars. While you're at it, get a Tornado air intake and the magnetic thingy that breaks up fuel clusters for your fuel line.
Go ahead, get some N2 for yer tars. While you're at it, get a Tornado air intake and the magnetic thingy that breaks up fuel clusters for your fuel line.
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Spike,
You negate what happens to the moisture in air when it heats up, oxygen leaching and oxidation. Also, where did you get that number because air doesn't have a specific capacity as it varies based on humidity and pollution content, and that's energy required per degree of change. If you look at the properties of nitrogen verses air, the heat transfer ability and the holding ability, well, the gap becomes wider with increasing pressure, plus the double whammy of water evaporaton causing increased pressure which causes more heat, which increases pressure, etc. Maybe the US Air Force and most air lines have a bunch of dummies working for them and should hire you instead of spending their money on this? Just a thought, sounds like a possible career path for you.
You negate what happens to the moisture in air when it heats up, oxygen leaching and oxidation. Also, where did you get that number because air doesn't have a specific capacity as it varies based on humidity and pollution content, and that's energy required per degree of change. If you look at the properties of nitrogen verses air, the heat transfer ability and the holding ability, well, the gap becomes wider with increasing pressure, plus the double whammy of water evaporaton causing increased pressure which causes more heat, which increases pressure, etc. Maybe the US Air Force and most air lines have a bunch of dummies working for them and should hire you instead of spending their money on this? Just a thought, sounds like a possible career path for you.
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Okay, this has gone on long enough. Ever hear of the Ideal Gas Law? Perv - nert? PV=nRT? Heat capacity of air is 1004 Btu/lbm-R, nitrogen is 1041, and oxygen is 916. Virtually the same. No differ-ance, wie miseur?
Go ahead, get some N2 for yer tars. While you're at it, get a Tornado air intake and the magnetic thingy that breaks up fuel clusters for your fuel line.
Go ahead, get some N2 for yer tars. While you're at it, get a Tornado air intake and the magnetic thingy that breaks up fuel clusters for your fuel line.
Thankfully, it is my money I will be spending on the nitro and not yours. One of the things I don't buy is smart *** comments as I take your Tornado reference to be. So while I am happy that you can do math, it doesn't mean much to me....and BTW, don't think you can seduce any body with that French accent either.
So que sera sera there good buddy.
CO River Rat
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From: Lake Havasu City AZ
How's this for some heavy-duty claims? All brought to you by the folks at n2generator.com:
Drivers: Are You Driving on Nitrogen?
Save fuel (fuel economy improved by 5%)
Save tires (improve tire wear by 20%)
Reduce emissions into the environment
Avoid false pressure readings from Tire Pressure Monitoring Systems
Enjoy a better ride
Steve
Drivers: Are You Driving on Nitrogen?
Save fuel (fuel economy improved by 5%)
Save tires (improve tire wear by 20%)
Reduce emissions into the environment
Avoid false pressure readings from Tire Pressure Monitoring Systems
Enjoy a better ride
Steve
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From: Cow Town, CA
How's this for some heavy-duty claims? All brought to you by the folks at n2generator.com:
Drivers: Are You Driving on Nitrogen?
Save fuel (fuel economy improved by 5%)
Save tires (improve tire wear by 20%)
Reduce emissions into the environment
Avoid false pressure readings from Tire Pressure Monitoring Systems
Enjoy a better ride
Steve
Drivers: Are You Driving on Nitrogen?
Save fuel (fuel economy improved by 5%)
Save tires (improve tire wear by 20%)
Reduce emissions into the environment
Avoid false pressure readings from Tire Pressure Monitoring Systems
Enjoy a better ride
Steve