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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 01:49 AM
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I know this thread will get deleted or moved, but hopefully made into a sticky...


but I am tired of clicking on a thread that can potentially be helpful to me and reading comments like..

I dont know anything about it, sounds like a hard job....

These forums are meant to help people not to up your post count. And I have been reading from a couple different users, I will not name names because I have seen it done over the years here, post that are giving just flat out bad information, pure guesses, or just merely saying they have no idea what they are talking about and truly the post has no purpose, post like....

I really dont know anything about manuals but, i'd just get an auto instead it solves all your problems...

when the thread starter was asking how to fix a problem or what the problem would be with these symptoms. Giving bad advice that generally is bad, and you really dont know the answer to is very discouraging to people, and very misleading.

as FMC400 said in a previous post " I don't know if you know this, but people take a lot of stock in what is said on FTE. If you advise someone that a steering wheel will fit or the problem is this or the problem is that, they are very well inclined to spend the money or put in the labor based on the advice given here."


I am not trying to point out one person, as I have seen several people do it over the years and I probably have done it, and it is very frustrating. I have found the search feature starting to become more and more useless as I can not bare to stand reading all of the post that say "cool" "i dont know but good luck"

please from one FTE one 73-79 truck loving guy to all the others (and gals) try and post when you are able to be helpful, if you dont know the answer to a technical question why post? I find myself reading more threads than posting, I will read a thread and if I dont know the answer, or dont think I am close to a 100% right or helpful, I dont post because I know it is a waste of time for the thread starter who is seeking help to have to go through post that are meaningless when he is need of fixing his transmission or something of that sort.


Try and keep your post full of information on tech threads


and please remember to read this
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/7...79-trucks.html

before posting, he made it a sticky for a reason!
 
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 01:55 PM
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Not to be "useless" but i second this, you see it more and more all the time.
 
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 02:07 PM
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Excellent post brentlee. I couldn't agree more. And I know exactly what posts you are talking about...
 
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 02:08 PM
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Forums and newsgroups are for -the people- interested in the subject
not just pure technical information about the subject.

Right or wrong?

BTW...
Cool! :)
I don't agree but good luck with your requests anyway! :)

LOL :)

Alvin in AZ
 
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 02:23 PM
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this forum is for us guys and gals to talk about these trucks but isn't this thread a waste of time too? don't get me wrong some people leave stupid comments and it can be annoying if its a technical thread, but these comments exist because people like to talk or give there answer and say i don't know or here's my opinion or try this, and then someone how knows the answer comes along and will see that it baffles people so they are more likely to answer the question, and if you don't want peoples opinons then a forum is not the place for you, you can never get rid of the human factor, we all are not robots how state a answer that is correct or the one you want to hear, some people just think out loud and make comments they should not even type but i guess we all feel like buddies on here, so don't let my post rub you the wrong way, but this is what you get when you have a bunch of people commenting about something they share a passion about, and i know there is moron posts on this forum and i hate them as well.
 
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 02:48 PM
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not to be rude, but im starting to get the feeling that some of the people on here only want to see answers, and not any kind of chat. that kinda makes people like me, who enjoy talking to others and finding out their opinoins, feel a bit unwelcome.
 
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 03:21 PM
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Cool thanks, Blue. :)

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So far I see a majority that want others to shut the **** up. :)
Oh? You didn't -say it- that way? :/
Well, what exactly are you saying then?

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A thread is something we build together.
(let's all hold hands;)
The thread is read by others.
All view points are represented in a good thread.
The reader reads the whole-thing then decides for themselves what to think.
So, you want to limit what's said because of time constraints or what?

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1977 touched on this...
Sometimes some of the dumbest, wrongest crap can be posted and in the
end the thread -as a whole- it a good one! :)

Many times that dumb-wrong stuff draws out others to speak up because
they just couldn't sit by and let it stand there by itself. Information that would
otherwise not be posted for others to read.

Do you -really- want to stop that? :/

It's not about the little pieces it's about the thread as a whole.

When the idea gets fully explored (Brent approved stuff and dumb stuff too;)
and the reader is left feeling like they understand the subject fully, then the
thread is a success IMO.

Is -this- thread going to be one of the good ones you suppose? ;)

Alvin in AZ (libertarian)
 
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Blue Bomber
not to be rude, but im starting to get the feeling that some of the people on here only want to see answers, and not any kind of chat. that kinda makes people like me, who enjoy talking to others and finding out their opinoins, feel a bit unwelcome.
I don't see that really. I think it's more to do with people wanting the answers to the technical questions to be accurate.

Now the non-technical questions, or the modification questions where there is no proper way of doing the job, IE: 1973-1979 bed on a econoline, then yes I would think Ideas and suggestions and discussion would be welcome.

Saying something like a 1965 falcon fender will fit our 1973-1979 trucks for example, is something different.
 
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 03:57 PM
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so is it wrong when someone asks if (for example) a 500cfm carb would be ok for a 240 six. and i ask why they want a 500cfm carb.
 
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 81-F-150-Explorer
Saying something like a 1965 falcon fender will fit our 1973-1979 trucks
for example, is something different.
Some of the best-threads-ever started with or contains something "really
wrong" to spur others to post. Believe it? :)

Can you "see" that the "dumb crap" might be the "best" part? :)
Are we talking past each other?

It's not about my dumb -single- post and the crap I spew.
It's about the thread we build -together- that conveys the information.

I've found myself in this situation a hundred times...
"yeah but, what about...?"
And I'd keep reading and sure enough farther into the thread someone
asked my question and it gets answered for me. That "part" isn't seen.

Like the "idling thread" was looking like a "solenoid only thread".
I was looking for "idling information" and I'll betchu a dollar I wasn't the
only one. ;) Why can't the thread be useful to more than one person?

What about sloppy post-writing so it's only "easy" for the one typing but
difficult for a hundred others reading it?

Want to gripe about something, gripe about that? ;)

Alvin in AZ
ps- been involved in threads exactly like this on other forums and -many-
newsgroups... the "limiters" have always had to back off. ;)
 
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 04:36 PM
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I feel the same way basically and that is why I've been on here for over 5 years and only have 715 posts! I have been guilty a little lately of posting stuff that may not have been useful, but sometimes I post just so I can subscribe to the thread to keep up with progress or see what happens in the end. But I agree with if it's not helpful or at least trying to lead someone in the right direction you don't need to post it all the time.

Kind of in a way but,

Another thing that just gets all over me is when someone posts about lowering a truck and then of course here come the haters saying trucks should be lifted!! Well if you want your truck lifted thats fine and dandy, but is is absolutely necessary to post that in NEARLY EVERY thread about lowering a truck??? You hardly (if ever) see anyone posting in a lift question thread saying NO YOU SHOULD LOWER YOUR TRUCK!! That kind of crap irritates the he// out of me!
 
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Alvin in AZ
Some of the best-threads-ever started with or contains something "really wrong" to spur others to post. Believe it? Can you "see" that the "dumb crap" might be the "best" part?
When it comes to mechanical, or technical information, wrong information can get people hurt or killed.

Having questions or opinions is a different thing altogether.
 
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Blue Bomber
so is it wrong when someone asks if (for example) a 500cfm carb would be ok for a 240 six. and i ask why they want a 500cfm carb.
I see nothing wrong with asking questions. It's how you learn.
 
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 05:30 PM
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I'm all for all sorts of discussion on this board; it's full of some wonderful people. The only thing I have a problem with is when someone asks a technical question and someone consistently gives the wrong answers.
 
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 81-F-150-Explorer
When it comes to mechanical, or technical information, wrong information
can get people hurt or killed.
Having questions or opinions is a different thing altogether.
Is it? :)

What you think will kill someone, someone else has been doing for years and
years and ain't killed or maimed anyone! So even "for sure deadly" stuff is
up for grabs. Check out the "flipped thread" if you don't believe it. :)

Hey, don't be so stinkin' lazy. ;)

If someone posts something you think is dangerous counter it with a good
argument to the contrary, danggit. :) Explain where they need to be careful
"in detail" and let them decide what to do?

You know, "pretend;)" those reading it are smart enough to do the right
thing after all... you trust them to meet you on a highway at night at over
100 mile-an-hour closing speeds right? Or do you stay home at night? ;)

Just how stupid do you think all the rest of us are anyway? LOL :)

Everything on rec.guns goes through moderators before it gets posted.
There is a delay.
Is that what you want? :/
Should we run everything through you first? ;)

I've never-ever seen "free speech" lose to "limited speech" before.
Will this be the first time?
It'd be a cryin' shame.

What Brent et.al. have going is "wishful thinking".
--->Nothing wrong with that! :)
...as long as that's all the farther it goes?
...and buttheads like me can post "reality thinking" as a response?

In my "little world"...
Each thread does need to be taken as a whole tho.

Alvin in AZ (libertarian)
 
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