You gonna do a build thread on the SAS possibly?

 

Yea, i will do one, when i do the swap, im still lookin for a 60 though.

 

No snatching with chains, nothing like 40 pounds of steel flying around to get someone hurt. While it wont cut some one in half, it is enough force to stick a hook through your head, which will kill you.

 

But I can keep my non-treated blocks on there right?

 

I don't know what kind of chain you have, but i've only seen a chain snap once in my life, and it was under ALOT of stress, and was already a pretty crappy chain. My chains are real heavy duty. And I was watching a buddy pull another buddy out, they had a tow strap hooked up to a chain, hooked up to the truck. The strap gave out and shot the chain, but it still wasnt enough force to do anything. It hit the ground before anything could have happend.

Besides when your pulling, everybody should be clear of the chain anyway. The only time something has snapped on me was my rusty winch cable before I had a good one put on. I told everybody to stand clear cause I didn't think it could take the stress and what do you know? It snapped and landed in the snow.
Now I have 150ft of winch cable strong enough for my truck. And on top of that, I got it for free from my dads friend.

 

Towing and pulling with a chain is a different story, snatching with a chain will break them. It will happen, if it hasnt already. If your first tighten then chain then pull you should be ok, if the chain is heavy enough. If you go bumper to bumper with a chain, its gunna break.

RECOVERY straps will break, but when they come whipping back at the truck they wont do much damage, if you PROPERLY take care of a RECOVERY strap it will do you good.

I carry a chain, and a recovery strap. Im not afraid to use either one, i just know when and when not to use each. Winch cables are a totally different subject. Always through a jacket or something similar of the middle of it when winching so if it does break it will drop to the ground and not whip violently through the air.

 

Your winch cable idea is kind of how the chains work. They're too heavy to go flying through the air. I've given them a pretty big tug and so far no damage to the chains.

I only use the tow strap for towing after they're unstuck.

I agree with the jacket on the winch cable, but I don't put enough weight on the winch cable to snap it.

 

Not trying to seem like an a hole or bash you.... But.

Chains do break, if there loaded wrong they will whip through the air, and they will do damage. Same for winch cables. TOW straps are for just that TOWING.
RECOVERY straps are a different subject and are used for RECOVERING a stuck vehicle, they have different characteristics and are much stronger, there usually kinda of elastic so they will "******" the stuck vehicle out.
I suppose the countless people that have been hurt or even killed by flying cables or chains never really happened...
There was actually a post several months ago about a kid i think he was 17, him and his dad had finished building his truck and took all the safety precautions so nobody would get hurt if he got stuck. A friend of his got stuck and he shackled the chain to a tie down on the frame of his truck and gave the other end of the chain with a shackle to his friend, his friend dropped it over the ball of his truck, the kid gets in and trying snatching his friend out. The shackle wound up coming off the other guys truck and flew through the back window and killed the kid. He did everything that he was supposed to but his friend obviously didnt know wtf he was doing, and somebody paid the ultimate price for it.


As for your winch cable statement, if your pulling a stuck vehicle out, it has enough potential energy to do alot of damage to a vehicle and a person. You may not think your up to the cable rating, but how do you know for sure? Do you know the weight of the truck stuck, and the suction the mud is creating holding the truck there... The weight of the mud on the truck. Older cables are more likely to snap especially if they are not taken care of. If the cable breaks, it will whip until it gets to the weight on the line then it will hit the ground. I have personally seen this happen. It does work trust me.

 

why do people think this is ok??? please dont try this at home.....

 

well i see the 2x4 stood up on its end used as a lift block and i see the piece of iron, but still tryin to figure out what it is? It looks like some kind of steering arm, but not sure.

 

That frightens me... Why do I not have a welder, and *********s like that have them so readily available?!
That is the most bizarre way I've ever seen a negative arch sprung truck lifted, that is for sure...

Not in my most drunken haze would I think any of that mess is acceptable...

 

Ive recently seen on a local Craigslist,a 70's f250 highboy that had a pair of full length leafsprings added underneath the shorter bottom load springs on its front spring packs, used as a spacer or block. they were held in the middle by the u-bolts,but the ends were just floating in space,VERY CUSTOM! While not as scary as the front block/channel mod'd steering,still pretty neat. While i know very little about either of these people,i would hope that they practice contraception.......

 

How about the guys that lift TTB trucks without using pivot drop brackets?

I remember years ago when I saw a guy in a Ranger that he had lifted considerably, and had at least 33" tires on it, and it didn't appear he had used any sort of pivot drop brackets. With the amount of positive camber on the front of that truck, I figure he probably got about a thousand miles out of a set of tires.

 

Prozon,you are missing the point on chains! Yes,you or I can find a chain strong enough that we probably cant break it,PROBABLY. If the hook pulls,tears or falls free,youve still got the possibility of a disaster. One big advantage a strap has over chains is the ability to see damage,you can typically see a strap fray,see its loops stitching come apart,etc.and know that replacement is in order. same with wire rope or winch cable. the very nature of chain,its basically equivalent to a single strand or filament(Why do you think most wire,rope,line,etc is multi-filament)which typically shows very little outward signs of failure,then breaks very suddenly.

 

good point there, the hooks on chains arent ment to hook onto ANYTHING OTHER THAN A LINK OF THE SAME SIZED CHAIN.