Actually, lead head, the payload of the non-HD F150s is can be quite a bit less than that....my Screw 4x4 is only rated for 1450 lbs!!!

As for who tows that much with a 1/2 ton...I come close....I have an enclosed car hauler that weighs over 9,000 lbs fully loaded...

 

explains the screen name! J/K, hehe. I'm looking at some of the campmaster travel trailers/toy hauler/racecar trailers like that... except gonna be doing it with an excursion. No idea why the thing is rated for 10000lbs where the f150 is rated for higher... the X is considerably heavier and once I update some of the 8 yr old suspension, a lot more stable than my old F150... From how the engine pulls, the extra 10hp make a big difference

 

Heheh....it may explain the screen name indeed....

But on a serious note, it handles the weight real well...

 

Absolutely! Unless the F150 is gaining serious pounds itself...I wouldn't tow at the max.

The '07-'08 Tundra is rated for 10,300lbs in the 5.7L 4x4 DoubleCab model. I have read...that is just too much weight for that truck. It is impossible to offer a truck that is light for its size...and then expect it to tow that much weight.

That is why the SuperDuty line and the Heavy Duty lines...are the better tow machine. They weigh more...and help keep a more stable feel.

So...good on paper...does not mean good in actuality...IMHO.

Just my .02 here...


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Well...if that's how it goes...

My work truck is rated for a trailer just over 3x it's weight...

18,000 lb truck = 62,000 lb trailer.....in fact, my trailer right now weighs about 56,000........and she handles juuuust fine.

Wouldn't this make our -150s good for....what...saaay 15,000 lbs???

 

towing it isn't the problem... its stopping it.

 

Your truck also has 10 wheels and 3 axles, and the steel your frame is made out of is thicker then the entire width of the F-150s frame rail

 

Welp...if I remember right, federal law states that any trailer that comes anywhere near these weights has to have it's own brakes...

You don't think that Tundra commercial last year, stopping 10,000 lbs on downward slope, was pulled off without trailer brakes, do ya?

 

are you talking about the one where Toyota released the behind the scenes footage showing all the ford and chevy trucks needed to get the commercial done (and likely tow the trailer there?)

stopping does have a little to do with it (a truck will help stop the trailer too, the trailer brakes certainly don't do ALL of the work, just most of it)... From the towing i've done, I personally thing a bigger one is stability/sway control; a single rear wheel config can only be so stable under big loads especially with softer suspension and whatnot... Maybe the electronic sway control system is the reason the crewcab is now rated significantly higher?

 

Ah, leave it to Fosters to derail my pointless argument!

He's right! In a conventional, non-5th-wheel setup, there are a whole bunch of different forces acting on the tow vehicle that affect stability. The biggest nuisance is the lateral pulling at the hitch. If it were directly over the rear axle(5th wheel or gooseneck), the force would be transferred directly to the rear axle, and stability would be dependent only on how solid the rear suspension and running gear is.

But since you are connected at a point behind the rear axle, you are torquing the entire vehicle...this entire process is called....TRAILER SWAY!

There are only two things about a tow vehicle that can have ANY affect on trailer sway. Those are wheelbase, and weight! Wheelbase has MUCH, more affect on sway than weight, although both are important to have. Wheelbase is basically increasing the mechanical advantage your weight has on resisting the trailer sway. Much like using a longer lever to do the same thing...less force(weight) is required.

Of course, there are sway control devices on the market, that cheat the system. Supposedly they are very effective, but I've not tried most of them.

Dammit, Fosters!!!

 

As for the Toyota, has anybody else noticed how small the rearend housing it? Looks like it might have a 6" ring gear. Looks the same as my cousins little 89 Toyo mini truck.

 

i derrail anything from global warming to mpg arguments... you set em up, i'll knock em down

 

If you're referring to the new Tundra..well...somehow they managed to stuff a 10.5" ring gear in that thing. Same size as my Excursion!

 

Yup, 07 and newer have a 10.5" ring gear. I believe the 06s and earlier models had a 9.5"

 

Keep making fun of Toyota. They might be the only company around building trucks in a few years.
You'll be eating some fine crow if that day comes and you have to drive one.