View Poll Results: MPG or Horsepower
20 MPG and 7000lb towing capacity (0-60 in 15 seconds)
84
59.57%
15 MPG and 10 000lb towing capacity (0-60 in 10 or better)
57
40.43%
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MPG or Power?
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MPG or Power?
I'm curious what others are thinking on this topic. If you had to choose, what would you go for? So far there is very little being offered in the way of fuel efficient fullsize truck (and yes, it is possible).
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Originally Posted by TexasGuy001
I think its just a theoretical analogy. Its a what if statement.
My F250 can do 0-60 in close 10 seconds and can get better than 20 MPG on a good day (not at the same time of course), but its a question for the sake of arguement. What would you be the most satisfied with?
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I like these posts, you can definitely tell what the person wants, they're just looking for acceptance... "hrm, what would you rather have, 15 more torque or 45mpg??" gotta make it a bit more realistic if you're gonna ask that. ranger is rated to tow 6000lbs at its best and they barely get better mpg than the F150... not even close to 20mpg city. if they made the F150 like that, it would sure be its demise. not to mention, towing 6000 lbs with a ranger would be pretty suicidal...
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Originally Posted by DOHCmarauder
I would choose 0-60 in the 6's
A tow rating of 10K
And Highway MPG in the high teens....
Oh, wait, I already did. (and it runs on regular unleaded)
A tow rating of 10K
And Highway MPG in the high teens....
Oh, wait, I already did. (and it runs on regular unleaded)
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This is why car companies are offering several engine platforms for trucks and cars. I think Chevy offers like 3 different engines for their silverados (4.6/5.3/6.0) or something like that. Maybe ford can make a more fuel efficient 4.2 V6, 4.7, and 5.4? I know they are already offering the new F-150 with 3 V8 models, but it doesnt seems to be a huge difference between the two 4.7?
I think offering more engine choices, is the answer to the long debated HP vs MPG debate as everybodys needs vary.
I think offering more engine choices, is the answer to the long debated HP vs MPG debate as everybodys needs vary.
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Mpg's
They have been trying to improve the suv mpg's why not the trucks?? If people are going to be saying that they can get 20 ish with a F350 then those who want a F150 diesel should be able to get 25 ish on a bad day.
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Originally Posted by Fosters
I like these posts, you can definitely tell what the person wants, they're just looking for acceptance... "hrm, what would you rather have, 15 more torque or 45mpg??" gotta make it a bit more realistic if you're gonna ask that. ranger is rated to tow 6000lbs at its best and they barely get better mpg than the F150... not even close to 20mpg city. if they made the F150 like that, it would sure be its demise. not to mention, towing 6000 lbs with a ranger would be pretty suicidal...
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Engine and drive train choices is the answer. That way we're all happy.
Apparantly GM uses some type of an engine / fuel management system that will allow the engine to run all 8 cylinders or less based on demand. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the GM is at best getting 1-2 more MPG than the Ford.
Ford is getting respectable mileage while running all 8 cylinders all the time.
I'll be very curious to see how reliable the GM system is in the long run.
How many extra sensors and sub-systems does it take to selectively manage fuel, air and oil to a specific portion of the engine?
I know we have some mechanical guru's on this sight that simplify my statement / questions.
Tim
Apparantly GM uses some type of an engine / fuel management system that will allow the engine to run all 8 cylinders or less based on demand. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the GM is at best getting 1-2 more MPG than the Ford.
Ford is getting respectable mileage while running all 8 cylinders all the time.
I'll be very curious to see how reliable the GM system is in the long run.
How many extra sensors and sub-systems does it take to selectively manage fuel, air and oil to a specific portion of the engine?
I know we have some mechanical guru's on this sight that simplify my statement / questions.
Tim
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Originally Posted by tseekins
Engine and drive train choices is the answer. That way we're all happy.
Apparantly GM uses some type of an engine / fuel management system that will allow the engine to run all 8 cylinders or less based on demand. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the GM is at best getting 1-2 more MPG than the Ford.
Ford is getting respectable mileage while running all 8 cylinders all the time.
I'll be very curious to see how reliable the GM system is in the long run.
How many extra sensors and sub-systems does it take to selectively manage fuel, air and oil to a specific portion of the engine?
I know we have some mechanical guru's on this sight that simplify my statement / questions.
Tim
Apparantly GM uses some type of an engine / fuel management system that will allow the engine to run all 8 cylinders or less based on demand. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the GM is at best getting 1-2 more MPG than the Ford.
Ford is getting respectable mileage while running all 8 cylinders all the time.
I'll be very curious to see how reliable the GM system is in the long run.
How many extra sensors and sub-systems does it take to selectively manage fuel, air and oil to a specific portion of the engine?
I know we have some mechanical guru's on this sight that simplify my statement / questions.
Tim
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Originally Posted by tseekins
Engine and drive train choices is the answer. That way we're all happy.
Apparantly GM uses some type of an engine / fuel management system that will allow the engine to run all 8 cylinders or less based on demand. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the GM is at best getting 1-2 more MPG than the Ford.
Ford is getting respectable mileage while running all 8 cylinders all the time.
I'll be very curious to see how reliable the GM system is in the long run.
How many extra sensors and sub-systems does it take to selectively manage fuel, air and oil to a specific portion of the engine?
I know we have some mechanical guru's on this sight that simplify my statement / questions.
Tim
Apparantly GM uses some type of an engine / fuel management system that will allow the engine to run all 8 cylinders or less based on demand. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the GM is at best getting 1-2 more MPG than the Ford.
Ford is getting respectable mileage while running all 8 cylinders all the time.
I'll be very curious to see how reliable the GM system is in the long run.
How many extra sensors and sub-systems does it take to selectively manage fuel, air and oil to a specific portion of the engine?
I know we have some mechanical guru's on this sight that simplify my statement / questions.
Tim
I'm not sold on it at all.
The Tundra's 381 HP V8 gets much better MPG than Fords 5.4 that makes what 310 HP? Efficiency should be the way of the future with $4.00 a gallon gas right on the horizon.
Ford has work to do.