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Old Mar 23, 2008 | 11:38 AM
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Mud Project, Need Help

Ok, i recently purchased a 1984 Ford F150 with 302, 4 speed with granny gear. I cut fenders and have 36s on it right now. Well i want to go to next step. I am planning to lift it 6 inch suspension and 3 inch body. My question is, to have a nice mud truck and that turns up and is strong, what motor should i go with?? What gear should i use?? Should i run military axles?? All suggestions will be helpful.
 

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Old Mar 23, 2008 | 12:38 PM
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Well, as I see it now, your weakest link is the 302. It has little torque, which is very important when mudding. Maybe try to find a 351w to swap in there. The 4 speed w/ granny is a bulletproof tranny, I wouldn't worry bout that. If you do a lift, go with a quality kit, not blocks, and youll have to install a drop arm for the steering most likely.
 
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Old Mar 23, 2008 | 01:08 PM
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[QUOTE=boggerted]Well, as I see it now, your weakest link is the 302. It has little torque, which is very important when mudding. Maybe try to find a 351w to swap in there. QUOTE] Yes, except I can't read this without suggesting a stroker 351w, funds permitting.
 
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Old Mar 23, 2008 | 01:17 PM
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I would only throw a bunch of money into a stroker 351w, if that was the biggest engine that would fit. Find a few odds and ends, and put a 460 in there.
 
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Old Mar 23, 2008 | 05:34 PM
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Military axles are too heavy{Rockwells}.

A good Dana 44 will last fair in a mild truck-Dana 60 would be preferable

460 all the way
 
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Old Mar 23, 2008 | 07:01 PM
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cool, i know where a 460 is right now that i can get and i also can get a 351w.
 
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Old Mar 23, 2008 | 07:34 PM
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Is this for competitive mud racing or just for fun?
 
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Old Mar 23, 2008 | 08:39 PM
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Here is what it takes ($$$$$$) if you are serious about playing in the mud:

Stroked BBF (at least 545 cubic inches) and 5 ton axles. This guy even breaks them and is installing 20 ton axles!

 
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Old Mar 23, 2008 | 08:50 PM
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hm... well. Whats the budget on this thing? it could go a million different ways, from 1000 to 10000 or more. On the cheap.... Throw a solid 44 front and a 9 inch (if it doesn't have one) with the rear welded up.
On the pricey...... ZF axles with a 514 bbf with a built c6 and a stak t case on r2 tractor tires.
 
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Old Mar 23, 2008 | 09:00 PM
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cool, i know where a 460 is right now that i can get and i also can get a 351w.
Make sure you get all the "goodies" Dave was talking about to go with that 460, like motor mounts, transmission and whatever else it takes, and if you've got that kind of budget, stroke the hell out of that 460.
 
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Old Mar 23, 2008 | 09:22 PM
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if you've got that kind of budget, stroke the hell out of that 460.
For about $1200 you can throw in a SCAT cast crank, Eagle H Beam rods and JE pistons.

.060 over and a 3.75" stroke will get you 545.
 
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Old Mar 23, 2008 | 09:43 PM
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That's what I'm talkin 'bout! If you're going to go big -go big. Kinda like the 351w thing, which I mentioned because it was previosly and is a direct fit, but if you got the dough, make a bigger motor bigger. It's not like you need fuel economy for this toy.
 
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 09:57 AM
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i dont think you need a big block, unless your going real big on tires. use the 302 or 351, and put an automatic in it.
 
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 02:47 PM
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man that was heartbreaking to see you get stuck/pulled out and then not to get it restarted as i was there....
 
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