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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 12:17 AM
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6.9L diagnosis

So I have an 86 f250 4x2 blah blah, with the venerable 6.9L diesel in it. The engine smokes a little under load, and hardly has any hp/torque left in it. It even has died a few times while running, and has problems starting when its pointed up hill. I ran a compression test, and everything turned out fine. I think the problem is in the fuel delievery, as thats pretty much the only thing that can kill a diesel when it gets running. I only use the truck for dump runs, and I dont mind really tearing into it to find out whats going on.

Any suggestions on where to start?

I heard that to diagnose the fuel system up to the injector pump you can splice in a piece of clear tubing and check for air bubbles... sound like a good idea?

Any insight/past experience is greatly appreciated.
 
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 06:51 AM
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Does the truck still have the original gray rubber return lines from the injectors? They go from each injector and back to the tank.

If they are still the original gray ones, replace them, because more than likely, they were disturbed and now allows air to enter the system. That's why it is hard to start when facing uphill, gravity helps push the fuel away and draw in air.
 
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 09:03 AM
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You did post in the correct forum for your truck, and F250FarmBoy gave you good advice. Here's an even better forum dedicated to your engine, where you can gain lots of info.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/forum117/
 
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by F250FarmBoy
Does the truck still have the original gray rubber return lines from the injectors? They go from each injector and back to the tank.

If they are still the original gray ones, replace them, because more than likely, they were disturbed and now allows air to enter the system. That's why it is hard to start when facing uphill, gravity helps push the fuel away and draw in air.
It has stock everything, including those return lines. Is that just something that you have to be creative with and replace with rubber tubing, or can you actually find the whole setup somewhere? I just know there not going to have it at the local parts store...
 
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 11:48 AM
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http://www.mwfi.com/dieselPage/ford_69.htm

They call it an "Injector Kit" for about $35.

I removed the injector lines to make it easier on me and gave then a coat of paint, but you dont need to, just be careful not to bend them. It took me a good hour or 2 from raising the hood to shutting it.

I'd give it a 1.5/5 difficulty rating.
 
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 12:30 PM
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Got one, and I'm currently in the process of doing the replacement. Since I'm not really used to diesel stuff, I pulled an injector just to see what it looked like. The end picture is a little fuzzy (couldnt get the camera to focus...) but its basically got a light black char over the tip. Is this what they are supposed to look like?



 
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 03:03 PM
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ooh, and just a little update here, I did the whole replacement kit, and the thing runs like a beauty! (relatively speaking, of course...) It takes hills like nobody's business and actually accelerates.... Thanks a bunch for the advice guys!
 
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 03:18 PM
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Glad to hear it. Doesn't it feel good to do something like that yourself?
 
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 03:21 PM
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well, I'm not exactly a stranger to working on old beat up trucks, just the diesel thing is new to me. I would have never guessed something so small like that could cause so many problems.

One thing that I did noticed, however, is that two of the injectors were covered in metalic gunk from the threads to the copper washer, and another one had some oil on it... Cause for concern?
 
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 08:17 PM
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that metallic gunk might be anti-seize, it would be a good idea to use that on all of them so the nexst time you have to take the injectors out you wont be yelling at yourself!
 
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