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Old Mar 16, 2008 | 01:39 AM
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Question about new tires!

Hello, I am going to be purchasing a set of Destination M/T's 285/75 R16's.
I will be using my stock 97' F-150 16" rims. My question is will I need backspacing, if so will the place that puts them on supply the backspacing or order it with the wheels.
This is my first truck so the whole big tires thing is new. But I have done a ton of research and have found nothing saying I need backspacing just seen some applications where they mention they have Backspacing.

Anyway thanks for any help!!!
 
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Old Mar 16, 2008 | 01:58 AM
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The backspacing refers to the wheels, the back area of the mounting surface of the wheel to the rim edge is the backspacing. Newer trucks have wheels with more backspacing than older trucks - Ford F150s up to 1996 have less backspacing.

The real issue is the section width of the 285s you want to buy. These are at least 11 inches wide and require a wheel of at least 7.5 inches. The stock 16s are only 7 inches wide.
All though the stock wheels can be used, the tires might be too wide and will have more sidewall bulge, and may create tire rub. (on brake parts and other items).

 

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Much appreciated, that's exactly what I was looking for.
is there any way to add spacers in the back like they do with lowriders to make the wheels stick out further or would this be unadvisable?

I'm thinking maybe 1 inch spacer if it is possible. I'd probably need longer lugs I imagine.
anyway thx for the help khadma
 
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Old Mar 16, 2008 | 02:23 AM
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This is an approach at what has to be done, put I do not know if you have a 4x4 or a 2wd truck.
This adapter is for a 4x4 as you can see.
You would need 2 sets - 4 spacers that is about 160 less the shipping.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/WHEEL...em110232573527


You could buy a set of proper (steel) wheels for just alittle bit more money.

Like I mentioned the 285s are just a bit too wide for your wheels, and the spacers are not as safe as new (correct fitting rims).

The spacers will add unwanted stress to your spindles and bearings. The heavier tires will add to the stress too.

I would buy proper wheels to use with your 285s just to be safe.
 
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Old Mar 16, 2008 | 02:27 AM
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Ok, I will look into new rims as well. I wanted black wheels anyway.
 
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Old Mar 16, 2008 | 02:31 AM
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Originally Posted by coyote81
Ok, I will look into new rims as well. I wanted black wheels anyway.
These trucks have HUB Centric wheels not LUG centric wheels.
Our lugs have a flat mating surface to the wheel not, I repeat, NOT an acorn type lug nut - THIS IS VERY important. Make sure the salesperson sells you the proper wheels.

I like black wheels too!

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I would like to welcome you to FTE, have fun with your truck and have fun on FTE.
 

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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 12:10 AM
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I run the same tires, same size, on the same truck, with the stock wheels. Plenty of room!


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Sweet, well this is good news. I think I'll start pricing the tires at local shops and see who offers the best deal for mounting/Balancing and road hazard and such. I guess if for some reason they do rub then I'll just go buy some rims.

Nice truck btw(kinda partial here though )

Thought of another question. I've been doing alot of research especially searching these forums and quite a few of you guys have 5 wheels they rotate in. now I know my spare isn't gonna be a alloy rim like I have on the truck, but could I go out and buy one and put the Firestone Destination's on and still mount it under the bed? Would there be enough room, Just curious if anyones tried this or not.
 
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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 07:18 AM
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The "brake parts" shouldn't be an issue since they fit inside the diameter of the wheel, which remains the same.

Originally Posted by khadma
may create tire rub. (on brake parts and other items).
Tire rub for the more modest 285 tire size is usually limited to the extreme L or R steering positions only encountered at slow 'parking' speeds anyway. I've also read that the rear edge of the plastic front valance can also contact these tires, but is easily trimmed back.
 
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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 08:32 PM
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Thinking about getting a 3inch body lift. Was wondering if anyone knew of some good ones. A guy at work told me he used some .99cent hockey pucks for his. I'd prefer a good kit as he said he wasn't sure they were legal.
 
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Originally Posted by coyote81
Thinking about getting a 3inch body lift. Was wondering if anyone knew of some good ones. A guy at work told me he used some .99cent hockey pucks for his. I'd prefer a good kit as he said he wasn't sure they were legal.

NO!!

Never ride in that guy's truck! Don't even drive on the same street as he is driving on. Hockey pucks are a fricken stupid way to get someone hurt or killed

NEVER use anything but a true body lift kit from a trusted name-brand company.

I hate BL's though.

You don't need any suspension or body modifications to run 285's.
 

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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by coyote81
Thinking about getting a 3inch body lift. Was wondering if anyone knew of some good ones. A guy at work told me he used some .99cent hockey pucks for his. I'd prefer a good kit as he said he wasn't sure they were legal.
That is dangerous and highly illegal. I would stay as far away from that truck as possible!

I have 295 75 r16's on my truck, on the stock rim. They fit with MINIMAL rubbing, my truck is a 95 however. So im not real positvie on your truck, my rubbing is on the very bottom corner of the front bumper. I would expect the same from your truck, if at all.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 04:38 PM
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Well I'll be getting the 285/70 R16's so they will be smaller than yours slightly. But if I get the body lift I'll be getting 305/70 R16's and hopefully they won't rub.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 05:55 PM
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As for your spare question, 33's will fit in the spare tire area.

Also anything larger than 33's (285/70/17 or 285/75/16's) will rub at full turn.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2008 | 04:33 AM
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Guess I'll be needing to see how much one of my stock rims is at a local junkyard. I'd rather not have to drive around with a spare that is so much smaller than the rest of the wheels. thx for the reply man.
 
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