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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 03:52 PM
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alrite ive always been curious but since i changed my oil recently i figured i would ask..whenever you change your oil is it ever possible to have fresh oil stay that same golden color or does it change that fast since its mikxing around with the little remaining oil from your last oil change???
 
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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 03:57 PM
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Probly just depends. Oil absorbs soot and other debris, which is why it tends to get darker fairly quickly.
 
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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 03:58 PM
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thanks ive always wondered that
 
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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 04:06 PM
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I'd rather see it getting dark fairly quickly - this means the oil's doing its job and keeping the contaminants suspended and out of harmful areas in the engine. Diesel's tend to put a fair amount of soot into the oil anyway - seeing that soot suspended is a lot better than having it end up as 'sludge' somewhere in the engine. Murphy's law says the sludge will wind up in the worst possible place anyway - like the bearings. Soot is fairly abrasive and the various major oil mfgs try their best to put enough additives in the oil to help keep it suspended btw changes.

A qt or so does stay in the HPOP during an oil change but when your pouring in 15 fresh qts it not that big of a deal in the grand scheme of things.

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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 04:09 PM
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I've read that guys running oil bypass filter systems have their oil stay honey color longer, if not all the time. I may be wrong on that...

But the fact that your oil is trapping the soot means it's doing its job. If the oil stays honey colored with the bypass filters, that tells me that the filters are trapping a lot of soot in there with the other junk. Not sure if that's good or bad, but I do know that black oil in a diesel fairly quickly after putting it in is normal. Partially because of the old stuff in there, but also because it just gets sooty fast.

You can get more oil out by pulling the little access (Allen screw) on top of the HPOP reservoir sucking it out. That puts fresh oil into your injectors almost instantly. No idea on the benefits of doing that, other than you're getting about an extra quart of old oil out...
 
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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 04:14 PM
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where is the hpop resivoir....im still in the process of finding my oil leak just replaced my upper and lower turbo ped. o-rings and still leaks no im gunna search my way around the HPOP and i was reading there is a spot to fill it up with more oil...and can i check the HPOP too see if its losing oil..
 
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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 04:23 PM
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where is the hpop resivoir....im still in the process of finding my oil leak just replaced my upper and lower turbo ped. o-rings and still leaks no im gunna search my way around the HPOP and i was reading there is a spot to fill it up with more oil...and can i check the HPOP too see if its losing oil..
Make sure you are putting a new copper gasket on your oil pan nut each time you do a change. I know I had a slow leak seeping out of the oil pan nut and when it leaked while I was driving it would spread around all over the oil pan, eventually leading to a sludgy mess, it makes the problem worse than it already is. I know Izzy had this happen to him as well. Worth a 2nd look.
 
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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 04:27 PM
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i have the fumoto drain now...man this is irritating as hell trying to find this damn leak
 
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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 04:31 PM
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if i am easy on the throttle, driving like grandpa, my oil will stay honey color all the time. it has really freaked some people out when I show them my dipstick with honey colored stuff on the tip (not sure i like the sound of that) after 5k miles on it. If I am making clouds of black smoke and really putting her to work, the oil will start to turn black and begin to thin.

I made a thread asking about this a while back. Kris (strokin) chimed in saying how his was always coal black and water thin when he did his oil changes. guess we drive a little differently
 
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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 04:34 PM
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lol yea its too hard to keep my foot out of the pedal tho..i guess ill have to deal with black oil
 
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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 04:43 PM
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bob, do you have the stainless steel or rubber hose HPX. i ask because i had been chasing a small, irritating oil leak as well. i would find a silver dollar sized stain each time i parked the truck. i had done the ebpv delete with new pedestal and outlet, and relplace both sets of o rings. it was still leaking, so i removed turbo, checked things out, put in another set of new o rings, and still leaking. finally, today, i pulled it out again, and by chance i removed my rubber hose HPOX line, and sure enough, it had a pinhead sized hole in it, i wouldn't have found it if i hadn't removed it to inspect. i'm ordering the stainless steel line asap. you may want to check yours, if it isn't stainless.
 
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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 04:46 PM
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i have the one from dieselsite..i dont think that its rubber
 
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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 04:47 PM
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i also came across this video sometime back when checking out bypass oil systems. i haven't decided on one, but his video was pretty cool. long though, and best viewed with broadband

http://www.lagoon.com/media/fil%20Sol%202_hi.wmv
 
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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 05:07 PM
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alrite now i feel like an idiot where is my hpop located thought i knew where it was but i was WRONG
 
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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 05:24 PM
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If you keep the soot and other goodies suspended, then the oil with the contaminants will have access to all the lubed journals, bearings, etc. The idea is to filter and clean the oil before it passes into these critical parts. Good main filters and good bypass filters should remove a lot of these contaminants and allow a cleaner oil to lube the engine.
 
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