460 conversion
#32
460 conversion
I don't think that they ever came with true flat tops. The pistons I pulled out of my motor were flat tops, but they had a rather large valve relief cut into them. When I replaced them, I got a set of hypereutectic flat tops from Keith Black that had only a single valve relief cut into it just large enough for the intake valve. They probably wouldn't work with a high lift cam, but for what I am using they were perfect. Hope that helps.
TBirdGuy
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#33
#35
460 conversion
No, threw my old ones away. They were in a 71' 460. They were dished with reliefs. I don't know if there ever were stock flat tops with only a valve relief. You may be able find them for a 429 and just run a 429 instead, but other than that you'd have to get aftermarket pistons if you want true flat tops with just the valve relief.
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#36
460 conversion
as for an 87 with a 460, the 250 mounts for a 460 should work, and in 87 you could also get a c6, so you could also use that crossmember(if that is what you are using). but let me know what you find out, cuz i have an 88 f150 that i have been considering the same swap....i just have to make the damn thing meet emissions.
mike
mike
#37
460 conversion
Hi T-Bird, Im planning on doing this 460 stroker conversion for my 73 mustang and would like the stock numbers for the Arias pistons sold by Summit that you mentioned and any other sources for the nessasary parts to complete this Monstor motor. So far the BB Chevy rods required can only be found in that 6.700 lenth in a few places and are a bit pricey ($539.99 a set), still cheaper than a stroker kit though. Thanks, LMK by e-mail if you can
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#39
460 conversion
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On the 87 460 swap, I went to the ford house, bought the brackets for the 460 for a f250, bolted right up, then went and bought a rear sump oil pan. Headmen Headers sells headers that work, and it just bolts right in. Couldnt get any simpler.
You can see the mounts and such on the engine here.
projectbigred.20m.com/pics/block16.jpg
Here are the brackets for the engine in the truck, bolted in.
projectbigred.20m.com/pics/ebay2.jpg
the headers that bolt right up.
projectbigred.20m.com/pics/header.jpg
the oil pan in place(Ford Motorsport kit)
projectbigred.20m.com/pics/block14.jpg
Sorry i would have pics of it in the truck, but i ran out of space on the server. But its a breeze to put in. One thing though. We have the carb sittin on a spacer, and that put it high enough we had to get a oval air cleaner, or it would hit top of the engine bay. And for emissions stuff. We left it off. Just find some inspection station in the booneys, they pass anything.
I think that is all. If you have any more questions or such just email me at FATHERFORD(at)hotmail.com
Oh i forgot, you need to buy a remote oil kit of some sort. There is another part ford motorsport sells that moves it to be perp to the font of the block, but that is messy, and besides remote oil kits look kewl.
On the 87 460 swap, I went to the ford house, bought the brackets for the 460 for a f250, bolted right up, then went and bought a rear sump oil pan. Headmen Headers sells headers that work, and it just bolts right in. Couldnt get any simpler.
You can see the mounts and such on the engine here.
projectbigred.20m.com/pics/block16.jpg
Here are the brackets for the engine in the truck, bolted in.
projectbigred.20m.com/pics/ebay2.jpg
the headers that bolt right up.
projectbigred.20m.com/pics/header.jpg
the oil pan in place(Ford Motorsport kit)
projectbigred.20m.com/pics/block14.jpg
Sorry i would have pics of it in the truck, but i ran out of space on the server. But its a breeze to put in. One thing though. We have the carb sittin on a spacer, and that put it high enough we had to get a oval air cleaner, or it would hit top of the engine bay. And for emissions stuff. We left it off. Just find some inspection station in the booneys, they pass anything.
I think that is all. If you have any more questions or such just email me at FATHERFORD(at)hotmail.com
Oh i forgot, you need to buy a remote oil kit of some sort. There is another part ford motorsport sells that moves it to be perp to the font of the block, but that is messy, and besides remote oil kits look kewl.
#40
#41
460 conversion
I've built an 82 460, and 2 88's, and a 69 429, didnt find ANY differenced in the blocks..Thinnk someones been readin too many car craft mags...
several differences ....
The post '79 blocks may have internal clearance problems with a stroker crank. The cylinder bores are close to a 1/2" deeper
towards the crank than pre '79s .
I try to use blocks marked from the Cleveland Foundry ...
the were cast more accurately .
If I'm using the Michigan blocks , I always make sure the lifter bores are centered and the oil pressure sender hole is centered .
If they're not centered , none of the other " major " holes are centered in the castings , either
dP
#43
460 conversion
Rob, I am interested on the way to increase the 460 to 514, I am putting one in my 78 259 4wd, also does it make any diference where that 460 came from ? right now it seats on a 79 2 wd 250, it seems they had to cut the frame rail on the passanger side to acomodate the exhaust manifold, thanks, Jorge.
#44
#45
460 conversion
>Rob, I am interested on the way to increase the 460 to 514,
>I am putting one in my 78 259 4wd, also does it make any
>diference where that 460 came from ? right now it seats on a
>79 2 wd 250, it seems they had to cut the frame rail on the
>passanger side to acomodate the exhaust manifold, thanks,
>Jorge.
This thread is TWO years old.
It's nice to see you were checking archives.
Although those guys might not even be around anymore.
You could have started another instead.
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>I am putting one in my 78 259 4wd, also does it make any
>diference where that 460 came from ? right now it seats on a
>79 2 wd 250, it seems they had to cut the frame rail on the
>passanger side to acomodate the exhaust manifold, thanks,
>Jorge.
This thread is TWO years old.
It's nice to see you were checking archives.
Although those guys might not even be around anymore.
You could have started another instead.
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