Progress on Buford
Well, I suppose I should start off with "no, I'm not dead". Like I said, I had to move this summer, which I did from Olympia to Spokane, WA. I had to put Buford into storage while I was looking for a house, so little could be done for a while.
I did find a house (boy did I), which is going to eat into my parts budget more than the old one did, but as i've got almost all my parts now, that won't be a huge deal. The big news is that my engine finally got finished, and I have it here at home.
I worked with Tim Meyer with regard to my engine. Everybody kept telling me to drop a 460 into Buford, and call it good. I just didn't want to go with the simple answer, as the largest engine a 79 4x4 came with was a 400. So, I wanted to stay at least somewhat true to that mentality. Tim and I had long discussions about what I wanted to build, and we settled on a 2V version of the 434 stroker. He had previously built a 3v version of this engine, but as we would learn, the 2V version was going to present some different issues.
The block was pretty much the same as the other 434, as Tim machined the block to incorporate 4 bolt main caps, and the stroker kit that he produces with forged crank, rods, and pistons. Tim also does a little extra work on improving the oil pressure situation so the plant doesn't starve (which 400's are known for). We then went with the 2V heads from CHI, and Tim built them out for my application. The other items were MSD off road ignition, Weiand intake, MSD billet distributor, Comp roller cam, Lunati tie-bar roller lifters, Fluidampr balancer, Edelbrock water pump, Demon 750 carb, Milodon oil pan, and all the fastening bolts are from Gardner-Westcott that have little Ford V8 emblems in the tops of them. The intake was powdercoated a color called "lollipop blue", which is a metallic candy color, and I think it looks perfect for where it will sit.
There were plenty of problems with building the engine, as Tim will attest to. He got it together for the first dyno run, and while the numbers were promising, there was a detonation issue. That caused a retreat to the drawing board, where we had Comp custom grind a cam for the plant specificially (we were using the same grind as the 3V version, and it just didn't work). Once it was back together again, one of the cylinders started to fill with water...and we learned that the detonating on the first run, made the head gasket fail. So, apart it came, and a good gasket went in, and back together it went. This time, it ran well, but there was a miss at 5000 rpm. I told Tim that a 400 generally never sees that sort of speed, and he said it was more than capable, it just needed to be tweaked. Well, that brought on an onslaught of changed carbs, ignitions, valve springs, lifters, etc., until Tim found the answer. Believe it or not, the valvespring keepers were changed from steel to titanium, and it freed up the engine another 1000 rpm. That tiny little bit of weight made all the difference. That, and we learned that the old fashioned roller lifter with the spider and dogbone setup, wasn't so good for over the 5000 rpm ballpark. So, we switched to the Lunati tie-bar lifters, and it smoothed right out. The issue was with the valve spring load and the higher rpms, the spider plate would potentially begin to flex, and cause lifter bleedoff. The Lunati setup worked perfectly, and Tim was able to put the stiffer valve springs back in.
Once all the pieces were in place, the engine ran like a champ (according to Tim, as I haven't heard it yet). He says the plant runs strong all the way up through 6500 rpm, which is waaaaaay beyond what the original 400 would have attempted. The dyno numbers were 507 horsepower, and 544 ft/lbs of torque, which is plenty for me. I probably could have gotten more out of it, but I also told Tim that idle quality was important too. I wanted a power, but well behaving plant that i could rely on, so I probably had to sacrifice some horses for manners. The upside, is that Tim said the plant produces over 500 ft/lbs of torque under 2300 rpm, and stays over 500 ft/lbs all the way over 6000 rpm. Now THAT is one long flat torque curve!
This engine project took months to complete, and if Tim hadn't been such a stickler for detail, it may have never gotten off the ground. Tim Meyer refuses to let an inferior product leave his shop, and that sort of professionalism is a welcome surprise in today's era of quick work and crappy results. I'm sure Buford will have a long, happy life thanks in part to Tim Meyer.
Anyway, today I managed to put on the dust shield and the flywheel, and drop the plant into the cradle. I got it all bolted down, and it looks right at home. I can't wait to get started putting the front end together. That will have to wait until after Christmas, but I'm going to take some time off to tinker in the garage for about a week or so.
So, for those of you that have been following my project, I wanted to let you know that it is still going, but it's been a little slow with all the developments in my life. If all goes well, I'm hoping to be able to turn the key by about May or June of 2010.
I posted a couple new shots in my album, but figured I'd paste a couple here as well. Enjoy.

I did find a house (boy did I), which is going to eat into my parts budget more than the old one did, but as i've got almost all my parts now, that won't be a huge deal. The big news is that my engine finally got finished, and I have it here at home.
I worked with Tim Meyer with regard to my engine. Everybody kept telling me to drop a 460 into Buford, and call it good. I just didn't want to go with the simple answer, as the largest engine a 79 4x4 came with was a 400. So, I wanted to stay at least somewhat true to that mentality. Tim and I had long discussions about what I wanted to build, and we settled on a 2V version of the 434 stroker. He had previously built a 3v version of this engine, but as we would learn, the 2V version was going to present some different issues.
The block was pretty much the same as the other 434, as Tim machined the block to incorporate 4 bolt main caps, and the stroker kit that he produces with forged crank, rods, and pistons. Tim also does a little extra work on improving the oil pressure situation so the plant doesn't starve (which 400's are known for). We then went with the 2V heads from CHI, and Tim built them out for my application. The other items were MSD off road ignition, Weiand intake, MSD billet distributor, Comp roller cam, Lunati tie-bar roller lifters, Fluidampr balancer, Edelbrock water pump, Demon 750 carb, Milodon oil pan, and all the fastening bolts are from Gardner-Westcott that have little Ford V8 emblems in the tops of them. The intake was powdercoated a color called "lollipop blue", which is a metallic candy color, and I think it looks perfect for where it will sit.
There were plenty of problems with building the engine, as Tim will attest to. He got it together for the first dyno run, and while the numbers were promising, there was a detonation issue. That caused a retreat to the drawing board, where we had Comp custom grind a cam for the plant specificially (we were using the same grind as the 3V version, and it just didn't work). Once it was back together again, one of the cylinders started to fill with water...and we learned that the detonating on the first run, made the head gasket fail. So, apart it came, and a good gasket went in, and back together it went. This time, it ran well, but there was a miss at 5000 rpm. I told Tim that a 400 generally never sees that sort of speed, and he said it was more than capable, it just needed to be tweaked. Well, that brought on an onslaught of changed carbs, ignitions, valve springs, lifters, etc., until Tim found the answer. Believe it or not, the valvespring keepers were changed from steel to titanium, and it freed up the engine another 1000 rpm. That tiny little bit of weight made all the difference. That, and we learned that the old fashioned roller lifter with the spider and dogbone setup, wasn't so good for over the 5000 rpm ballpark. So, we switched to the Lunati tie-bar lifters, and it smoothed right out. The issue was with the valve spring load and the higher rpms, the spider plate would potentially begin to flex, and cause lifter bleedoff. The Lunati setup worked perfectly, and Tim was able to put the stiffer valve springs back in.
Once all the pieces were in place, the engine ran like a champ (according to Tim, as I haven't heard it yet). He says the plant runs strong all the way up through 6500 rpm, which is waaaaaay beyond what the original 400 would have attempted. The dyno numbers were 507 horsepower, and 544 ft/lbs of torque, which is plenty for me. I probably could have gotten more out of it, but I also told Tim that idle quality was important too. I wanted a power, but well behaving plant that i could rely on, so I probably had to sacrifice some horses for manners. The upside, is that Tim said the plant produces over 500 ft/lbs of torque under 2300 rpm, and stays over 500 ft/lbs all the way over 6000 rpm. Now THAT is one long flat torque curve!
This engine project took months to complete, and if Tim hadn't been such a stickler for detail, it may have never gotten off the ground. Tim Meyer refuses to let an inferior product leave his shop, and that sort of professionalism is a welcome surprise in today's era of quick work and crappy results. I'm sure Buford will have a long, happy life thanks in part to Tim Meyer.
Anyway, today I managed to put on the dust shield and the flywheel, and drop the plant into the cradle. I got it all bolted down, and it looks right at home. I can't wait to get started putting the front end together. That will have to wait until after Christmas, but I'm going to take some time off to tinker in the garage for about a week or so.
So, for those of you that have been following my project, I wanted to let you know that it is still going, but it's been a little slow with all the developments in my life. If all goes well, I'm hoping to be able to turn the key by about May or June of 2010.
I posted a couple new shots in my album, but figured I'd paste a couple here as well. Enjoy.

looks good! (and glad to hear you are not dead! lol.) the numbers on the stroker are impressive. lots of torque , and it stays strong through the rpm . im sure it will do you proud.
Well, I've got a couple little updates here....
I put the headers in, and managed to do it with as few scratches as possible. It's kind of a tight fit, but they're in. I'm a little concerned about the Milodon dipstick tube, as it's resting on the headers. Granted, the contact isn't over a large surface, and the headers are ceramic coated, but I still think the stick could get hot. I didn't have a lot of options, as that's the stick that goes with that particular pan.
I also managed to get the new steering shaft in, and it looks good. It's a lot beefier than stock, and is collapsable as well. You can also see from the picture that I put in the new longer stainless front brake lines (the stock ones were old, and too short).
Finally, the one bit of progress today that I can't show, is that I finally pulled the trigger, and ordered my overdrive unit from Gear Vendors. Yes, I know there are cheaper solutions out there, but I thought it'd be trick to have that overdrive unit. The C6 is too good to get rid of for a weird overdrive tranny swap, and the Gear Vendors unit is nice if I do any towing (not terribly likely any time soon, but what the hey). I had to eat a lot of soup and sandwiches, but that is one of the last big ticket items for Buford. I also am in the process of having a harness made by Centech, as I'm going to be mailing some of my switches to them for harness matching. That'll be spendy too, but nowhere near as much as the GV unit.
Anyway, I figured I was way overdue for giving a progress report. 'later.
I put the headers in, and managed to do it with as few scratches as possible. It's kind of a tight fit, but they're in. I'm a little concerned about the Milodon dipstick tube, as it's resting on the headers. Granted, the contact isn't over a large surface, and the headers are ceramic coated, but I still think the stick could get hot. I didn't have a lot of options, as that's the stick that goes with that particular pan.
I also managed to get the new steering shaft in, and it looks good. It's a lot beefier than stock, and is collapsable as well. You can also see from the picture that I put in the new longer stainless front brake lines (the stock ones were old, and too short).
Finally, the one bit of progress today that I can't show, is that I finally pulled the trigger, and ordered my overdrive unit from Gear Vendors. Yes, I know there are cheaper solutions out there, but I thought it'd be trick to have that overdrive unit. The C6 is too good to get rid of for a weird overdrive tranny swap, and the Gear Vendors unit is nice if I do any towing (not terribly likely any time soon, but what the hey). I had to eat a lot of soup and sandwiches, but that is one of the last big ticket items for Buford. I also am in the process of having a harness made by Centech, as I'm going to be mailing some of my switches to them for harness matching. That'll be spendy too, but nowhere near as much as the GV unit.
Anyway, I figured I was way overdue for giving a progress report. 'later.
I appreciate it, but it's ok...I know not too many people say anything, and sometimes it seems like noone could give a rat's patootie about what I'm doing. I just post as a general courtesy as I know a couple guys have been keeping tabs on my progress. Let's put it this way...I know at least a few people are watching, otherwise this thread wouldn't have gotten over 160 views in the last 24 hours. So, while I sometimes think that I'm just talkin to the wall, I know somebody out there is paying attention.
Regardless, I do appreciate the thumbs up.
I have a tiny update today...I called Gear Vendors to finalize my order, so it's on the way. (woohoo!) I also called Summit Racing and bought a bunch of odds and ends like ballast resistors, junction blocks, that powerbraid stuff from Painless, and a few other items. I'm going to be mailing out my switches to Centech tonight so they can get my harness put together. Now that I've bought the OD unit, I can plan on getting some serious progress done in the coming months, and hopefully I'll have Buford running some time this summer. It won't be finished, but at least I'll be able to turn the key, which would be a HUGE step.
Anyway, thanks again for the comment....I'll keep posting as things happen! 'later.
Regardless, I do appreciate the thumbs up.
I have a tiny update today...I called Gear Vendors to finalize my order, so it's on the way. (woohoo!) I also called Summit Racing and bought a bunch of odds and ends like ballast resistors, junction blocks, that powerbraid stuff from Painless, and a few other items. I'm going to be mailing out my switches to Centech tonight so they can get my harness put together. Now that I've bought the OD unit, I can plan on getting some serious progress done in the coming months, and hopefully I'll have Buford running some time this summer. It won't be finished, but at least I'll be able to turn the key, which would be a HUGE step.
Anyway, thanks again for the comment....I'll keep posting as things happen! 'later.
Man that truck is awesome. I just love the detail of everything and that's going to be one awesome engine. When the time comes, let us know the OD unit works. I'm going to save up for one for my 77 F250 4x4.
Thanks...I'm kinda liking how he's shaping up, myself!
As for the OD unit, I'll let you know. I figured it'd be a good idea, as with 4.10's anything over 60mph seemed to have the engine just running too high for my taste, and with as much money as I dumped into my plant, I didn't want high rpms wearing on it for no good reason. The folks at Gear Vendors say that anybody with a little mechanical knowledge can install one of these things, so that means I have a pretty good shot at not messing it up.
By the way, off the subject, I just got done reading another thread on this board where the author was apparently offended by someone's opinion of his truck build, so he summarily deleted every single post to the thread which was a pretty darned old thread! Now, aside from being about the most childish and selfish thing that he could have done, I want to say something right now....It doesn't bother me one iota if someone out there doesn't like my truck, thinks I should have gone a different direction, or just plain thinks I'm an idiot for what I'm doing... that's their opinion, and they're completely entitled to it. I don't post this stuff because I "need" anyone to approve, as I like my truck regardless of what people think. I post this stuff because I have this odd impression that some people might be entertained by my lunacy, and just possibly someone out there might learn a thing or two from things I've tried, or maybe get some inspiration for their own projects.
Now, I'm not saying any of this because anyone has given me a negative opinion, or anything else. I guess I'm just saying it because I don't want people censoring themselves about what they think because some other person deleted their entire thread just because someone wounded his inner child. That's a disservice to everyone here, and we've got to be better than that. I just figure that I can be a blabbermouth about something I like to do, and if anyone else is entertained by it, or can learn from it, all the better.
Anyway, I know that was off-topic, but that other thread kinda bothered me a bit as it was a build thread like mine, and I just don't want anyone to think that I'd behave that way. Besides, when the name of my truck is
Big
Ugly
F
O
R
D
BUFORD!.....how offended do you really think I could get?
As for the OD unit, I'll let you know. I figured it'd be a good idea, as with 4.10's anything over 60mph seemed to have the engine just running too high for my taste, and with as much money as I dumped into my plant, I didn't want high rpms wearing on it for no good reason. The folks at Gear Vendors say that anybody with a little mechanical knowledge can install one of these things, so that means I have a pretty good shot at not messing it up.
By the way, off the subject, I just got done reading another thread on this board where the author was apparently offended by someone's opinion of his truck build, so he summarily deleted every single post to the thread which was a pretty darned old thread! Now, aside from being about the most childish and selfish thing that he could have done, I want to say something right now....It doesn't bother me one iota if someone out there doesn't like my truck, thinks I should have gone a different direction, or just plain thinks I'm an idiot for what I'm doing... that's their opinion, and they're completely entitled to it. I don't post this stuff because I "need" anyone to approve, as I like my truck regardless of what people think. I post this stuff because I have this odd impression that some people might be entertained by my lunacy, and just possibly someone out there might learn a thing or two from things I've tried, or maybe get some inspiration for their own projects.
Now, I'm not saying any of this because anyone has given me a negative opinion, or anything else. I guess I'm just saying it because I don't want people censoring themselves about what they think because some other person deleted their entire thread just because someone wounded his inner child. That's a disservice to everyone here, and we've got to be better than that. I just figure that I can be a blabbermouth about something I like to do, and if anyone else is entertained by it, or can learn from it, all the better.
Anyway, I know that was off-topic, but that other thread kinda bothered me a bit as it was a build thread like mine, and I just don't want anyone to think that I'd behave that way. Besides, when the name of my truck is
Big
Ugly
F
O
R
D
BUFORD!.....how offended do you really think I could get?
Dad always use to say if you dont like it, change the channel. And FTE has alot of Channels.
Youv'e got a Great Thread. Between this thread and Cammed Dents thread, I have cleaned the garage and started back on my project '79 after a 1-1/2 year break.
So, last weekend I got started on the headers, which was a road block.
You have a Very Sweet Truck. I guess i'm building your trucks li'l brother. Black F150 w 351W small block.
I should get a thread started
Thanks for Sharing
Youv'e got a Great Thread. Between this thread and Cammed Dents thread, I have cleaned the garage and started back on my project '79 after a 1-1/2 year break.
So, last weekend I got started on the headers, which was a road block.
You have a Very Sweet Truck. I guess i'm building your trucks li'l brother. Black F150 w 351W small block.
I should get a thread started
Thanks for Sharing
Nice beastie you're working on there.....you're right, it does look like it'll be Buford's little brother when it's all said and done. Even the wheels are similar in design. Nice work you're doing on the headers...I went with a set from Heddman, and had them ceramic coated.
You definately need to get your own build thread started so you can document the steps of your build. Besides, it gives kind of a storyline about how things are progressing.
By the way, for Buford, I spent Sunday in my local ACE Hardware store in the nuts and bolts aisle. I was there for over 4 hours part matching everything I'll be needing for assembly of the front clip, engine compartment, and interior. When I put my basket on the counter, the lady just stared at me and asked if I had lost my mind. Once we agreed that I had, she rung me up........I ended up getting $410 worth of fasteners (stainless and grade 8 are SPENDY!). Anyway, I should have everything I need to assemble my front end in the next couple months, so hopefully I'll be posting a lot more progress reports here soon.
You definately need to get your own build thread started so you can document the steps of your build. Besides, it gives kind of a storyline about how things are progressing.
By the way, for Buford, I spent Sunday in my local ACE Hardware store in the nuts and bolts aisle. I was there for over 4 hours part matching everything I'll be needing for assembly of the front clip, engine compartment, and interior. When I put my basket on the counter, the lady just stared at me and asked if I had lost my mind. Once we agreed that I had, she rung me up........I ended up getting $410 worth of fasteners (stainless and grade 8 are SPENDY!). Anyway, I should have everything I need to assemble my front end in the next couple months, so hopefully I'll be posting a lot more progress reports here soon.
Well, I looked at the last date that I posted on this thread, and I have to come clean.....I've been remiss in my duties of keeping people posted on my progress. To be truthful, though, my progress has been non-existent this summer as I've been in DC working all summer long, and my truck is back home (which sucks!).
Since I last posted, I've made some progress.....my wiring is getting close to being done. I've routed the entire harness, and have already wired up the fuse block, column, dash, and controls. I still have to install the pig tails everywhere for the lights, and I need to complete the wiring on the compressor assembly, and a few other things, but it's getting there.
I've reassembled the rear seat and it looks great, and have even test fit it in the cab and it works perfectly (had to align a few things tho). The front seats are an entirely different matter. I test fit the new seats, and the frame for them sits far enough back so as to cause the back seat not to be able to flip open with the center front seat in its current location. As such, I'm going to have to customize the mounting frame to move the center seat forward by about five inches, and that should allow things to work without causing any real issues. Once I get that done, then I can move on to the stereo install.
I was scheduled to have the guys come out and install the stereo before I went on this trip, but since this trip came up, I was forced to put the whole thing on hold for a while. I'm hoping to get that done when I get home in September. I'm having the stereo installed instead of doing it myself, as it's covered under warrantee if I have it done, versus no warrantee if I do it myself. Considering that the system is going to be around $4k, I figured it'd be best if it was under warrantee.
Other than that, I've installed the core support, and inner fenders so that I could mount the battery frames (you guys will love those when I can finally load some pictures), air compressor, ignition, wiper resevoir, etc. I've also mounted the headlight baskets, and have installed the lights to see if they fit....yup, they do. Buford is finally starting to take shape, and i'm liking how he's coming!
So, again, I apologize for not posting here as often as I should. This last year has been one bugger to get past between both of my parents ending up in the ICU for various reasons, my job taking me away from home for the entire summer (NOT happy about that), and partially just my weird habit of not wanting to take photos until I feel i have something that's really worth showing. I should be better about that, as I know you guys like step by step photos way better than just one finished product shot.
Anyway, when I get home in September, I'm planning on taking a week or two so I can just get some work done on my truck, and decompress after this trip. I'm hoping I'll have lots of photos for you guys then, and maybe I'll get to turn the key before the end of the year (I'll not hold my breath on that one).
Just didn't want you all to be thinkin I croaked, or anything.....Buford will live if it kills me!
Since I last posted, I've made some progress.....my wiring is getting close to being done. I've routed the entire harness, and have already wired up the fuse block, column, dash, and controls. I still have to install the pig tails everywhere for the lights, and I need to complete the wiring on the compressor assembly, and a few other things, but it's getting there.
I've reassembled the rear seat and it looks great, and have even test fit it in the cab and it works perfectly (had to align a few things tho). The front seats are an entirely different matter. I test fit the new seats, and the frame for them sits far enough back so as to cause the back seat not to be able to flip open with the center front seat in its current location. As such, I'm going to have to customize the mounting frame to move the center seat forward by about five inches, and that should allow things to work without causing any real issues. Once I get that done, then I can move on to the stereo install.
I was scheduled to have the guys come out and install the stereo before I went on this trip, but since this trip came up, I was forced to put the whole thing on hold for a while. I'm hoping to get that done when I get home in September. I'm having the stereo installed instead of doing it myself, as it's covered under warrantee if I have it done, versus no warrantee if I do it myself. Considering that the system is going to be around $4k, I figured it'd be best if it was under warrantee.
Other than that, I've installed the core support, and inner fenders so that I could mount the battery frames (you guys will love those when I can finally load some pictures), air compressor, ignition, wiper resevoir, etc. I've also mounted the headlight baskets, and have installed the lights to see if they fit....yup, they do. Buford is finally starting to take shape, and i'm liking how he's coming!
So, again, I apologize for not posting here as often as I should. This last year has been one bugger to get past between both of my parents ending up in the ICU for various reasons, my job taking me away from home for the entire summer (NOT happy about that), and partially just my weird habit of not wanting to take photos until I feel i have something that's really worth showing. I should be better about that, as I know you guys like step by step photos way better than just one finished product shot.
Anyway, when I get home in September, I'm planning on taking a week or two so I can just get some work done on my truck, and decompress after this trip. I'm hoping I'll have lots of photos for you guys then, and maybe I'll get to turn the key before the end of the year (I'll not hold my breath on that one).
Just didn't want you all to be thinkin I croaked, or anything.....Buford will live if it kills me!
Great job on the truck. i would like to see a great write up on the GV install.
I think the GV is a great asset to the C6 and I would like a good informative write up
with your thoughts and opinions. cant wait!
I think the GV is a great asset to the C6 and I would like a good informative write up
with your thoughts and opinions. cant wait!
Well, I know I've not been good about posting progress here, but since I had been out of town all summer, I didn't really make any progress on Buford until after I got home. I've managed to make some progress finally, and in the last two months have actually gotten quite a bit accomplished.
With regard to installation, I've installed the following: inner fenders, core support, radiator and shroud, coolant overflow tank, battery trays, washer reservoir, air compressor, Gear Vendors overdrive, both custom drivelines, both gas tanks, trailer hitch, trailer brake controller, air tank and associated switches and regulator.
AND........managed to get the entire truck wired to include all new aftermarket systems (air compressor, air horn, trailer brake controller, GV overdrive, and battery isolator/controller). I just took my time, and crimped, soldered, shrunk wrapped, taped, loomed, and tie-wrapped the entire harness. I have to say.......wiring will drive you loopy.
So, while I've not been around much, I have been busy. I'm sorry I don't have more pictures for you, but I'm going to wait on some of it until it's more presentable. So, for those of you that are still paying attention, I did take a couple shots while I was thinking about it.....enjoy.



With regard to installation, I've installed the following: inner fenders, core support, radiator and shroud, coolant overflow tank, battery trays, washer reservoir, air compressor, Gear Vendors overdrive, both custom drivelines, both gas tanks, trailer hitch, trailer brake controller, air tank and associated switches and regulator.
AND........managed to get the entire truck wired to include all new aftermarket systems (air compressor, air horn, trailer brake controller, GV overdrive, and battery isolator/controller). I just took my time, and crimped, soldered, shrunk wrapped, taped, loomed, and tie-wrapped the entire harness. I have to say.......wiring will drive you loopy.
So, while I've not been around much, I have been busy. I'm sorry I don't have more pictures for you, but I'm going to wait on some of it until it's more presentable. So, for those of you that are still paying attention, I did take a couple shots while I was thinking about it.....enjoy.










