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Old Jan 4, 2008 | 01:08 AM
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and shes off to the doctor like my curtesy car u get for ur truck lil focus lol
 
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Old Jan 6, 2008 | 12:55 PM
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Mine seems to have gotten worse (harder to start) since I was in to have my head gaskets and one head replaced. Do you suppose that thios could be a result of a re-flash rather than a mechanical/electrical problem. Anyone else that has just recently been in for a service now noticing a harder cold start with longer crank time. It was -3C here the other day and the truck had been parked for 3 days unplugged and it started like it was -40. I'm putting a call in to my dealer tomorrow to see whats up. I'll let ya know if they can tell me anything.
 
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Old Jan 8, 2008 | 10:34 PM
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well we brought ours back to the dealer and they changed the alternator and something like a fuel harness again or something not sure but it seems good for now knock on wood lol
 
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Old Jan 9, 2008 | 08:03 PM
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Well my 04 is still at the dealership, they did find 5 bad injectors, I had already lightened the oil grade in all my trucks as we have already experienced -20f I hope it is just an injector issue weve already had 56 inches of snow and I really want my one ton back.
 
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Old Jan 18, 2008 | 01:45 PM
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Cold no-start LOTS of white smoke - 2004 6.0L

Well, I just called the dealership to get a status/diagnosis on the repair. They say that I have a coolant leak in the EGR cooler, causing the no-start and huge clouds of white smoke (while cranking only). Apparently it's a lengthy repair, so we're looking at another week+ driving the courtesy 2008 Focus . I'll let you know if that fixes the issue when I get it back.

Cheers!

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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 11:37 AM
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Did they happen to tell you what fuse they found was loosing power? Thats something I would like to check myself with a meter one morning when I think it will act up.

Wierd. wounder if it has anything to do with the glow plugs...
I took my truck in Jan.22, they replaced the power distribution box because the faulty fuse was part of the box itself. Hope it's the problem because i didn't have a problem in three weeks up north with it.
 
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Old Feb 16, 2008 | 03:45 AM
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Well, I just called the dealership to get a status/diagnosis on the repair. They say that I have a coolant leak in the EGR cooler, causing the no-start and huge clouds of white smoke (while cranking only). Apparently it's a lengthy repair, so we're looking at another week+ driving the courtesy 2008 Focus . I'll let you know if that fixes the issue when I get it back.

Cheers!

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OK, this fixed the problem. Starts right up and no more white smoke. Plus, I got an oil/filter change and coolant flush out of the deal. If this is your problem, I hope you're still under warrantee... The funny thing is, I didn't notice any coolant missing. After many years of driving gas trucks, that's the first thing I look for when I see white smoke.
 
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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 10:59 PM
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Update

The truck didn't start again on Saturday. Left me stranded at Sam's club with a 13-month old boy and $100 worth of frozen food. You can imagine how that went. Anyhow, no white smoke this time and it cranked just fine. Not even an attempt to fire up. Had it towed to the dealer, and the we'll see how it goes. I have a feeling it's the HPOP since the truck was still hot from the trip to the store when it wouldn't start. The Diesel tech really seems to be good, so I'm confident he'll get me back on the road soon.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by tvicker
I have a feeling it's the HPOP since the truck was still hot from the trip to the store when it wouldn't start. The Diesel tech really seems to be good, so I'm confident he'll get me back on the road soon.
Turns out that is what was wrong with mine....some fitting off the HPOP. Starts like new now warm or cold....Had my truck back that same afternoon.
 
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Old Feb 25, 2008 | 06:44 PM
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Hello all,

I haven't visited since last year, because no one responded to my post about starting problems. But, now that you're all talking about various issues, I'll see what you think about mine. I have an '04 6.0 that I bought two years ago. Everything was fine, until one day it wouldn't start. I was waiting for my brother to come fix it, when he asked me if I had tried to start it again. What do you know? It started right up. A month or so later, it did it again. I waited and tried again, but this time nothing. I started by changing the cam sensor, and it started right up. Not to long after, it did it again. This time, I waited till the next day, and it started. This had gone on for the first year, till I was going on a camping trip last summer, and I didn't want to get stranded. I took it to the dealer right after it would start again, but they couldn't figure out what the problem was. As the usual excuse, they couldn't get it to repeat. They said there was an error message for the cam sensor, but they didn't know if it was just junkmail. This is what they calim can be caused by having Banks Turbo on the truck. Their suggestion was to take it to Banks, and have them check their system, and/or remove it for them to check it properly. I took it to Banks. They checked their system, which was fine. I had them unhook it, and took it back to the dealer, who still couldn't find anything wrong. I had Banks rehook everything and went on my trip. Luckily, everything was fine until November. It did it again. It did it in January sometime and again twice in the last two weeks. Sometimes it starts the next day, and sometimes it takes three days. The dealer is no help, and I don't know what to do. I live in California, so extreme cold isn't my problem. So far, it's only happened on a cold start. Once it starts, it starts all day and runs great. Any ideas....???? help...
 
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Old Feb 25, 2008 | 07:48 PM
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Are there any other symptoms when the truck is running? Stumble, rough idle and how long does it crank when it does start? Is there any white or black smoke when it does not start? Have you had the injectors tested? When was the last time the air filter and fuel filters(2) were changed? Any other codes? Have you serviced or replaced the EGR valve?

Please provide more details on the symptoms and maybe someone will be able to help.
 
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Old Feb 25, 2008 | 08:14 PM
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CSB - some more info that might help us troubleshoot would be:

- have you noticed any oil leaks (especially at the top of the engine around any sensors)?
- when it fails to start, is it more often with a hot engine, a cold engine, or no pattern?

You should probably start getting some recommendations for another dealership although their issue may be mainly w/ the Banks components (even though you took it back once w/ it unhooked). Once unhooked, you should leave it unhooked until the problem is resolved.

My dealership is intentionally hard to deal with when they see aftermarket mods. Sadly, many are this way.
 
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Old Feb 25, 2008 | 11:56 PM
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I live in Alaska and I do not use a oil pan heater. I have seen where they have cooked oil and burned it on the oil pan. (happens when you leave it plugged in and the outside temp rises. or if you plug in and it really isin't too cold out)

I just use syntetic oil (it flows even when its cold)


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If I lived in a colder climate, I would definitely have an oil pan heater. Quicker lubrication on starts and a little easier on the battery. Even 5W/40 oils (when cold) do not protect as well on start-up as you would think.
 
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Old Feb 26, 2008 | 09:53 AM
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So far, it has only happened on a cold engine. Once it starts, it runs for the day. It usually starts right away. Sometimes I think it cranks a little longer, but that just might be me anticipating that it's not going to start, so it seems longer. There isn't any smoke and no stumbling or rough idle. Once it's running, it runs great. I have not had the injectors tested or the EGR valve checked. The dealer didn't offer any suggestions to anything. All they said was there were too many things it could be, and they wouldn't even know where to start without some type of code. So I was basically on my own to try and figure it out. That's why I joined this... Thanx for the input. Please keep offering any suggestions...
 
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Old Feb 26, 2008 | 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by mnmwhit
I live in Alaska and I do not use a oil pan heater. I have seen where they have cooked oil and burned it on the oil pan. (happens when you leave it plugged in and the outside temp rises. or if you plug in and it really isin't too cold out)

I just use syntetic oil (it flows even when its cold)
I find it hard to believe that you could "cook" synthetic oil from an oil pan heater. Also, you definitely will reduce the engine wear and the starter wear using heated oil in very cold climates. May not be enough of a help to see any benefit for quite a few miles, but it helps in the long run. The viscosity goes up quickly below 0 degrees F.

http://www.widman.biz/Seleccion/Visc...aph/graph.html
 
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