05 Cold Start Problem,
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05 Cold Start Problem,
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Im here in Colorado, and ive owned my truck for over a year. (2nd Winter) Last year I didn't have any issues with my truck starting up when cold. I mean by that it would start usually after one crank. This year Ive ran my batteries down twice trying to get it to fire up. Im plugging it in at night, Using 15-40 Rotella, Running Diesel Kleen (White Bottle) Usually when its really cold out, I will almost need to continue to hold down the key while its trying to stay running, I know thats really not a good thing for my starter but when I need it fired up I need to.
My father is a 7.3 owner, and suggested the glow plug relay, Ive heard that for the 7.3s, but not for the 6.0 being an issue. What do yaull think?
Am I the only one with this issue? Everybody I talk to dont have any issues that day starting up their diesels. Whats the deal boys,
Thank you,
Sean
Im here in Colorado, and ive owned my truck for over a year. (2nd Winter) Last year I didn't have any issues with my truck starting up when cold. I mean by that it would start usually after one crank. This year Ive ran my batteries down twice trying to get it to fire up. Im plugging it in at night, Using 15-40 Rotella, Running Diesel Kleen (White Bottle) Usually when its really cold out, I will almost need to continue to hold down the key while its trying to stay running, I know thats really not a good thing for my starter but when I need it fired up I need to.
My father is a 7.3 owner, and suggested the glow plug relay, Ive heard that for the 7.3s, but not for the 6.0 being an issue. What do yaull think?
Am I the only one with this issue? Everybody I talk to dont have any issues that day starting up their diesels. Whats the deal boys,
Thank you,
Sean
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Glow plugs are usually not a problem on the 6.0L but the high pressure pump on an 05 is. The pump usually exhibits a hard start when hot. I would check with the dealer and see what they come up with. Long cranking is usually air in the high pressure oil.
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If I lived in a colder climate, I would definitely have an oil pan heater. Quicker lubrication on starts and a little easier on the battery. Even 5W/40 oils (when cold) do not protect as well on start-up as you would think.
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I'm in northern Vt 30 mi. from canada and my 04 is doing the exact same thing new glow plug control module did not help, local dealer is going to get it in the 26th so Ill let ya know the other day it was -15 degrees here and my 03 6.0 and my 95 7.3 both started without being plugged in but that 04 would'nt even after over night on the cord. the only way it will start is left in the shop but thats where the big trucks are.
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I have the same problem with my 06, the last 2 winters it would start at -25 C this winter it has a hard time at -5C, dealer replaced FICM but didn't help. It seems like glow plugs to me, it goes back to dealer again on the 28 to be checked out.
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My 05 is kind of doing the same thing. Last winter it would start up fine, but now with about 27K it sits and smokes massive white smoke and surges rough for about 4-5 minutes. Just had it at the local Ford dealer and they say they "cant duplicate the same thing" and wont do anything about it. Curious to see what they find out on yours!!
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i really don't care if its not commonly glow plugs if it does not start at a temp where it should I would test to see that they are getting power and that they are good(thats not the same thing) in any case when it does start are you seeing smoke, if its smoking while cranking before starting you would almost certainly have glow issues
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Originally Posted by Dwinkie
i really don't care if its not commonly glow plugs if it does not start at a temp where it should I would test to see that they are getting power and that they are good(thats not the same thing) in any case when it does start are you seeing smoke, if its smoking while cranking before starting you would almost certainly have glow issues
I will need to find time to get it into the shop, its just driving me nuts needing to start it the way I am. Thanks for all your help guys.
Happy Holidays!
Sean
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There is a serious problem of some sort here. I live in northern Alberta Canada and even at -30C the truck will start OK. I think you definitely need to go to a lighter oil like 5W40 or 5W30 (manual says its OK in cooler climates). I'd start with that since the injectors don't actuate well with molasses.
Check your plug in for power, maybe you got a faulty block heater (you should be able to hear it percolating away if the engine is cold). If you can't hear it then its not working. Plug a light into the chord see if it works, then listen for the block heater.
Do you have winter fuel in the tank or still have summer fuel. If so put in some anti-gel or winter diesel conditioner. Check your fuel filters and replace as necessary. Is there any water in the water separator?
I really don't think its the glow plugs. You are waiting until the light goes out aren't you? On cooler days you may have to cycle the glow plugs twice.
Hope this helps.
Check your plug in for power, maybe you got a faulty block heater (you should be able to hear it percolating away if the engine is cold). If you can't hear it then its not working. Plug a light into the chord see if it works, then listen for the block heater.
Do you have winter fuel in the tank or still have summer fuel. If so put in some anti-gel or winter diesel conditioner. Check your fuel filters and replace as necessary. Is there any water in the water separator?
I really don't think its the glow plugs. You are waiting until the light goes out aren't you? On cooler days you may have to cycle the glow plugs twice.
Hope this helps.
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Okay, well thank you for your reply, heres what Im going to be doing this weekend.
Im changing out my block heater cord with a new one, Im not sure whats going on with it but i have had a couple issues with it last winter and just to make sure I dont have an shorts im getting under it.
Im going to change out my fuel filters and drain the water (obvisouly) I am not sure about changing out my oil, its less than 1000 miles on it since I changed it out last and well thats $50 out of my pocket, so thats a last resort.
I will let ya'll know what I figure out, I havnt heard a thing from my block heater. I will check it with a muilt meter when I get the cord off of it to make sure its not bad. Im almost positive its there is a problem, its the cord. I will also be ordering a oil pan heater too.
thank you,
sean
Im changing out my block heater cord with a new one, Im not sure whats going on with it but i have had a couple issues with it last winter and just to make sure I dont have an shorts im getting under it.
Im going to change out my fuel filters and drain the water (obvisouly) I am not sure about changing out my oil, its less than 1000 miles on it since I changed it out last and well thats $50 out of my pocket, so thats a last resort.
I will let ya'll know what I figure out, I havnt heard a thing from my block heater. I will check it with a muilt meter when I get the cord off of it to make sure its not bad. Im almost positive its there is a problem, its the cord. I will also be ordering a oil pan heater too.
thank you,
sean
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Originally Posted by fordextreme
Im changing out my block heater cord with a new one, Im not sure whats going on with it but i have had a couple issues with it last winter and just to make sure I dont have an shorts im getting under it.
I will let ya'll know what I figure out, I havnt heard a thing from my block heater. I will check it with a muilt meter when I get the cord off of it to make sure its not bad. Im almost positive its there is a problem, its the cord. I will also be ordering a oil pan heater too.
thank you,
sean
I will let ya'll know what I figure out, I havnt heard a thing from my block heater. I will check it with a muilt meter when I get the cord off of it to make sure its not bad. Im almost positive its there is a problem, its the cord. I will also be ordering a oil pan heater too.
thank you,
sean
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Well this morning, 8 degrees out. Everything frozen on and inside the truck. It fired right up. Im confused, but happy I wasnt late to work at the same time.
I do have a TBS Fault Code popping up for a second or two during cranking it over. Not finding anythig to explain what that means, Anybody?
I do have a TBS Fault Code popping up for a second or two during cranking it over. Not finding anythig to explain what that means, Anybody?
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I had the same thing with my 06,my fault code stayed on for 2 days, then one morning it started right up at -10 C,about 20 KM down the highway it went out the truck was fine for a few days then had trouble starting again and the code came on and stayed there. going back to dealer tomorrow the 28. I will let you know what happens.
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Hi guys, it happened again, truck sarted fine this morning at -15C without being plugged in,thecode light did not come on this time. The dealer said it could not do anything without a code coming up. second time this has happened,have to wait & see if it does it again. seems weird. I'll wait & see what happens then maybe try a differant dealer. confused?