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Old 12-17-2007, 09:18 AM
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95 f150 swapping from auto to manual?

hey guys i have a 95 f150 with a 302 and the 4r70w transmission. well its got 122k on it and im starting to get the common tcc shudder from my transmission. i just scraped my old 88 f150 but before i did i grabbed the zf 5 speed, transfer case, driveshafts, petals, etc. when i had my old 88 on the road that manual transmission never gave me a single problem. but could i swap that older 5 speed into my never 95 with no problems? i know this 4r70w is a computer controled transmission so will i have any computer or driveability problems from the truck? im not new to the whole auto-stick swap as i just did my 85 z28 2 years ago and im still running an automatic computer in that with no driveability probs.
 
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I think the hump in the floor will be different for the manual. If you're good at sheet metal work and have a welder it shouldn't be a problem for you though. You might also have to weld up mounts for the clutch pedal and cut a hole in the firewall for the clutch to pass through.
 
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yeah i havent got under my 95's dash yet but im sure there is just a template already there that i have to knock out for my master cyl to go through. why would the hump in the center be different? if anyone has swapped before please chime in. thanks!!!
 
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I think the hump for a manual trans will need to be taller than for an auto. Not 100% on that, but I remember hearing something similar once before.
 
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It should fit, I've never heard of the hump bein a different height. Not sayin its impossible, but seems improbable that Ford would make 2 different cabs for auto or manual.
 
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yeah the swap itself im not to worried about i have done it before on my camaro. i just wanna know if my driveability will still be good when i swap it to a manual. wont i throw a check engine light because i will have all my automatic trany connectors unpluged tucked up under the frame?
 
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I did such a swap on my '91 F150 and the hump is different. You just need the removeable hump from the manual trans truck and then you cut a hole in your floorboard (already indented for you) and mount the cover you got from the donor truck. It'll make the carpet fit tight because the manual hump is taller. I slit my carpet at the very bottom of the hump (underneath the floor mats) to make it fit better.
 
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ok i did check my truck and it does have a removable floor hump in it even though its a factory automatic. and i found a donor truck in the junkyard that im going to pull the manual center hump out of tommorow. then i should be good to go to start the swap.
 
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You also need the clutch pedal assembly from a 92-96, cause the 87-91 is different. And on the firewall there is a plate you take off thats where the clutch master will go. I used a 89 slave cylinder and hydraulic with a 92 master cylinder, seems to be working fine.
 
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I just finished doing this swap in my F150 4x4. I went from an E40D to the M50D out of an 89 F150 4x4. I had to fabricate a new trany mount because the M50D tranny is 2" shorter than the E40D and the Frame in my truck changed thickness just infront of my original tranny crosmember, so I couldnt just move it forward. the welder and som stock from Home Depot took care of that problem. The tranny hmp was just fine I cut a hole in it for the shifter to come through and made a floorboard boot out of a piece of 22 guage sheet metal and som 1/8" rubber sheet and used some rtv to make sure it seald good.

Remember the starter is different from the auto to manual, the manual starter has a shorter nose on it because the ring gear on the manual fly wheel is closer tot the block than the auto flex plate. The other thing I ran into is the motor plate (dust cover) has a different size hole in it for the starter. The manual sterter for mine is .067" larger diamiter than the auto starter.

just some things to check while its apart so your not under there with every thing assembles trying to grind out the motor plate...
 
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I just finished doing this swap in my F150 4x4. I went from an E40D to the M50D out of an 89 F150 4x4. I had to fabricate a new trany mount because the M50D tranny is 2" shorter than the E40D and the Frame in my truck changed thickness just infront of my original tranny crosmember, so I couldnt just move it forward. the welder and som stock from Home Depot took care of that problem. The tranny hmp was just fine I cut a hole in it for the shifter to come through and made a floorboard boot out of a piece of 22 guage sheet metal and som 1/8" rubber sheet and used some rtv to make sure it seald good.

Remember the starter is different from the auto to manual, the manual starter has a shorter nose on it because the ring gear on the manual fly wheel is closer tot the block than the auto flex plate. The other thing I ran into is the motor plate (dust cover) has a different size hole in it for the starter. The manual sterter for mine is .067" larger diamiter than the auto starter.

just some things to check while its apart so your not under there with every thing assembles trying to grind out the motor plate...
 
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Originally Posted by 85camaroman
hey guys i have a 95 f150 with a 302 and the 4r70w transmission. well its got 122k on it and im starting to get the common tcc shudder from my transmission. i just scraped my old 88 f150 but before i did i grabbed the zf 5 speed, transfer case, driveshafts, petals, etc. when i had my old 88 on the road that manual transmission never gave me a single problem. but could i swap that older 5 speed into my never 95 with no problems? i know this 4r70w is a computer controled transmission so will i have any computer or driveability problems from the truck? im not new to the whole auto-stick swap as i just did my 85 z28 2 years ago and im still running an automatic computer in that with no driveability probs.
It should be a straight forward swap. LMC truck should have all the little odds & ends that make the 87-91 trans work in a 92-96. As for the computer, leave the MLPS switch in neutral, computer will function normally.
 
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I also went e4od to m5od and the crossmember bolted right up. I did use the crossmember from the 89, so that might make the difference. I went to the bone yard and got a harness from the engine bay back to the tranny. If you don't the back up lights will not work.
 
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what do i need to do to wire in my reverse lights on this swap. so far everythings going smooth. ive got the auto trany and transfer case out, i have swapped in the new petal assembly and im now bolting the new steering colomn in. i just need to know what do do to make the reverse lights work?
 
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I gonna chime in a little late, but i hope this helps. First, this is a complete bolt in swap, there should be no cutting/welding/ or drilling (except carpet). As hard as that is to believe, its true, ive done the swap before on my old 92 flareside.

A manual tranny hump pan will bolt right in. As will the crossmember out of an manual truck. The only thing that will need to be modified will be your driveshafts, assuming that your donor truck has a different cab/bed configuration.

Otherwise, everything bolts in.

You will throw tranny codes, but, they wont trip the check engine light.

You will need to wire your neutral safety switch.

These pics are from my swap they may be some help
http://fordtruckworld.tenmagazines.c...sp?album=53910
 


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