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Originally Posted by DonJames
Consumer Reports trashes the Super Dutys (i cant find article 'FTL40' was talking about) but raves about the Honda Ridgeline? Now you know they are full of it. So what I would like to know: are they talking about overall reliability, the smooth car-like ride, or using it harshly like a truck was intended for?
"The Honda Ridgeline redefines the pickup, combining the comfortable ride and agile handling of a car-based chassis with good payload capacity...." I wonder what CR considers a 'good payload capacity' is? Maybe compairing it to the payload of a car, hence it is clasified as a car in the title. You noticed that the title of their article says "Consumer Reports Top 10 Cars", not 'Consumer Reports Top 10 Trucks'. Its a car, not a truck. But that turns into a different subject.
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/popup?id=1675809&contentIndex=1&page=3
"The Honda Ridgeline redefines the pickup, combining the comfortable ride and agile handling of a car-based chassis with good payload capacity...." I wonder what CR considers a 'good payload capacity' is? Maybe compairing it to the payload of a car, hence it is clasified as a car in the title. You noticed that the title of their article says "Consumer Reports Top 10 Cars", not 'Consumer Reports Top 10 Trucks'. Its a car, not a truck. But that turns into a different subject.
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/popup?id=1675809&contentIndex=1&page=3
A guy who developed body creases in his truck after towing a trailer...with his golf cart on it. Must have been a whopping 1500-2000 pounds on it,
A guy who drove his Ridgeline "off road" on a logging trail, ended up with serious suspension damage. The dealer insisted he must have been driving at seriously high speeds on this logging road, he claims he never went over 15 MPH.
A vehicle that rides so low the NHTSA is investigating whther the low catalytic converters are causing grass fires
Reliability so poor, one owner reports 14 trips to the dealer for warranty work in 11 months.
Oh, and from http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/f...t=11037&page=3 is this guy, with his list of repairs on a 2006 Ridgeline:
TSB on Transmission for shifting issues. Fixed
TSB for steering wheel squeek (Returned after three months and fixed for second time). Fixed
Visor clips replaced (I think this is a TSB now). Fixed
ALL window regulators. Fixed
Rear sliding window motor (Entire assembly replaced). Fixed
Had to have the metal strips on the roof replaced as the ones that were cut for the roof rack install were put back in without the clips needed to hold them in. Fixed
Several alignments that never fixed the drift to the right. Ended up going to a VW dealer and paid $79 to have the alignment done correctly. It was and the truck drives straight as an arrow now. Fixed by VW dealer
TSB on valve stems. Fixed
After three days of ownership that the tires were at 45psi, not at 32psi (Even though the dealers delivery check out sheet showed that the pressure was at 32psi when delivered). Fixed
Had to go back to dealership and get my rear seat undertray since it was missing after the first service visit. Fixed
AM reception issues that resulted in a wiring harness being replaced. Fixed
Had all four valves within the valve stems replaced as they were sticking when topping off with air (Problem hasn't returned even after switching to nitrogen). Fixed
Had the sensor that turns on the bedlights when the tailgate is opened replaced because it failed. Fixed
Going into shop this coming Monday to have the windsheild looked at because when wipers wipe the rain off, there is too much glare left to see clearly. Turned out to be bad wipers and dirty windshield. Fixed
Torque converter seal replaced due to transmission being overfilled at the factory (Four [Now five] visits needed to diagnose / replace parts, still appears to be leaking). Fixed
Driver's seat leather replaced due to cracking on lower left of seat back. Fixed
Driver's seat rocking under breaking fixed by replacing seat rails. Fixed
Upper strut bearings, mounts for rack and pinion steering unit, and rack and pinion steering unit replaced per TSP. Fixed
Sun Visor clips replaced again. Fixed
I mean, you can't call that thing a truck!
I'm sure the Super Duty was just too big and frightening for the C-R testers.
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From: NORTHERN Minn
Originally Posted by tex25025
Technically speaking there are quite a few parts that aren't made in America that go into the superduties so to say it is a total American product is wrong, now Ford company is an American company, but that alone isn't sufficient to say it's a total American product. Now assembled in America is different, but then again foreign car makers have assembly plants here in the US(two of which I pass by atleast 4 times a month here). Semantics I know, but nonetheless there they are.
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they said all superdutys, even the gassers. it is in the small buyers guide about the size of a tv guide. they did not provide any specifics tho only stating the amount of warrenty claimes is how they come to there conclusion
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From: Wake Forest, NC
Originally Posted by blueiron
Consumer Reports complains about anything not made by Lexus or Honda. The Super Duty ride is too rough [Hello! It's a 3/4 or 1 ton truck and you are testing it unloaded!], the turning radius is too large [the wheelbase is up to 172 inches long - it isn't a Civic], too hard to get up into it [I can't get my 6'4" body into too many imports either, ya dinks], the mileage is terrible [The vehicle weights over 6,000 pounds! Can you take your RX330h off roading and carry a dead elk back? I can.], it brakes too slow [It isn't a sports car.], poor acceleration and handling [Want fast and agile? Buy a Corvette or a Shelby Mustang], etc.
They insist every child wear a helmet at play, no one should ride motorcycles, every car should be 4 cylinders or less and get 50 mpg or better, and most power tools are unsafe. Consumer Reports should stop testing anything other than kitchen appliances.
Mamby pamby sissies.
They insist every child wear a helmet at play, no one should ride motorcycles, every car should be 4 cylinders or less and get 50 mpg or better, and most power tools are unsafe. Consumer Reports should stop testing anything other than kitchen appliances.
Mamby pamby sissies.
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From: Texas
Originally Posted by tex25025
either that or I was extremely lucky with my 06.
You have to keep in mind that most "consumer" type reviews are graded upon standards set by a car so a Super Duty will always fair poorly. I've seen truck comparisons that use different rear end ratios for MPG comparisons, and others that compare the turning radius of brand x extended cab vs brand y crew cab trucks. Can't figure out why the ext. cab always wins that one.
You can pretty much ignore ratings from any car or consumer magazine when it comes to bigger pick ups, otherwise we'd all be trading in our 350's for a ridgeline.
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From: New Jersey
Originally Posted by DonJames
Consumer Reports trashes the Super Dutys (i cant find article 'FTL40' was talking about) but raves about the Honda Ridgeline? Now you know they are full of it. So what I would like to know: are they talking about overall reliability, the smooth car-like ride, or using it harshly like a truck was intended for?
"The Honda Ridgeline redefines the pickup, combining the comfortable ride and agile handling of a car-based chassis with good payload capacity...." I wonder what CR considers a 'good payload capacity' is? Maybe compairing it to the payload of a car, hence it is clasified as a car in the title. You noticed that the title of their article says "Consumer Reports Top 10 Cars", not 'Consumer Reports Top 10 Trucks'. Its a car, not a truck. But that turns into a different subject.
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/popup...Index=1&page=3
"The Honda Ridgeline redefines the pickup, combining the comfortable ride and agile handling of a car-based chassis with good payload capacity...." I wonder what CR considers a 'good payload capacity' is? Maybe compairing it to the payload of a car, hence it is clasified as a car in the title. You noticed that the title of their article says "Consumer Reports Top 10 Cars", not 'Consumer Reports Top 10 Trucks'. Its a car, not a truck. But that turns into a different subject.
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/popup...Index=1&page=3
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Hi-
New to this forum, but reading about the 6.0L (I have a 2005), it seems to be getting a bad rap here, and on other forums. I have over 40k miles on mine- pulls toy hauler once a month (May thru Oct.) that weighs 12k loaded at 70-75 mph- hundreds of miles. Other than that- it sits, sometimes for months on end, outside in St. Louis weather. Never a problem. Ever. One thing I do however, is have it serviced EXACTLY as specified in the Diesel engine owners manual supplement. I'm pretty sure most people have problems for a combination of reasons (read: beating the daylights out of your engine somehow) including not keeping up with required service (service costs money, but so does your truck). Just my .02
Cheers.
New to this forum, but reading about the 6.0L (I have a 2005), it seems to be getting a bad rap here, and on other forums. I have over 40k miles on mine- pulls toy hauler once a month (May thru Oct.) that weighs 12k loaded at 70-75 mph- hundreds of miles. Other than that- it sits, sometimes for months on end, outside in St. Louis weather. Never a problem. Ever. One thing I do however, is have it serviced EXACTLY as specified in the Diesel engine owners manual supplement. I'm pretty sure most people have problems for a combination of reasons (read: beating the daylights out of your engine somehow) including not keeping up with required service (service costs money, but so does your truck). Just my .02
Cheers.
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I have no idea how to post them, but I just took 2 screen shots of the consumer reports data. If you want a copy of this and can post it for the group to see, I'll happily email you a copy. Just ping me at svt2205@hotmail.com
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One can review the posts here or on the 6.0 forum, but facts are, the early 6.0's were plain out trouble. I had one. I had a 6.0 Excursion. Most problems were eventually resolved. I have a 6.0 F-350. One EGR valve. With that said.
It is my understanding that CAT is the only engine manufacturer that does not use an EGR valve for road diesel engines. I am told that Mercedes, duramax, cummins use the EGR valve to comply.
My point, form same source. CAT is experiencing tremendous problems with their road engines.
I do not know the demographics, but I would bet Ford sells 5 or more super duties compared to each truck competitor. Obviously, FORD will have more notoriety and press. Shame they don't toot their own horn. I am still hoping to buy a 6.4
It is my understanding that CAT is the only engine manufacturer that does not use an EGR valve for road diesel engines. I am told that Mercedes, duramax, cummins use the EGR valve to comply.
My point, form same source. CAT is experiencing tremendous problems with their road engines.
I do not know the demographics, but I would bet Ford sells 5 or more super duties compared to each truck competitor. Obviously, FORD will have more notoriety and press. Shame they don't toot their own horn. I am still hoping to buy a 6.4
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From: Long Island USA
Originally Posted by rats1955
I don't see a big issue if fixed under warranty.
1) You work the truck and it makes money for you. It's hard to buy food or pay the rent when your truck is in the shop.
2) You and your entire family are on the highway pulling a 12K trailer and it quits on you - 200 miles from the nearest dealer.
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But yeah, CR has been trashing Ford and the other US manufacturers for a long time.
As to why they say the Superduty is a "no buy" - I guess they don't have any readers, because I see them all over the place
