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I called around.. HOWE Performance doesnt make boxes for the Road.. PCS Motorsports doesn't make boxes for 04's either.. So I talked to AGR.. He can sell me a Ram Assisted for $1000.. Upgraded Stock Pump with Ports, Gearbox and Hydraulic Dampner Cylinder.. Said it'll keep my front end perfect.. What do ya'll think?
I know our boxes suck.. They blow out too fast, with me running the lift and wanting 37's soon.. I figured it'll be $300-400 for a decent box, why not spend some extra and get a really good system that'll hold..
Opinions?
I know our boxes suck.. They blow out too fast, with me running the lift and wanting 37's soon.. I figured it'll be $300-400 for a decent box, why not spend some extra and get a really good system that'll hold..
Opinions?
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Have you tried ORU??
Personally, I would recommend PSC or ORU way before AGR......sucks that PSC doesn't have anything for you.
I've known of too many issues with AGR over the years. Even though I did fix a FUBAR'd install of a Rock Ram with a buddy of mine and the guy liked the system once we got it working properly, I'd still be hesitant to run one.
I run 38s and have run 40s and still have my stock box, but I do have crossover steering aka high steer which makes it easier on the system to turn the big tires.
I'm gonna to a PSC setup at some point (I already have the pump and some other parts from a buddy of mine who swapped a CR into his SD and no longer needed them).
Personally, I would recommend PSC or ORU way before AGR......sucks that PSC doesn't have anything for you.
I've known of too many issues with AGR over the years. Even though I did fix a FUBAR'd install of a Rock Ram with a buddy of mine and the guy liked the system once we got it working properly, I'd still be hesitant to run one.
I run 38s and have run 40s and still have my stock box, but I do have crossover steering aka high steer which makes it easier on the system to turn the big tires.
I'm gonna to a PSC setup at some point (I already have the pump and some other parts from a buddy of mine who swapped a CR into his SD and no longer needed them).
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Originally Posted by DCSpecial
Have you tried ORU??
Personally, I would recommend PSC or ORU way before AGR......sucks that PSC doesn't have anything for you.
I've known of too many issues with AGR over the years. Even though I did fix a FUBAR'd install of a Rock Ram with a buddy of mine and the guy liked the system once we got it working properly, I'd still be hesitant to run one.
I run 38s and have run 40s and still have my stock box, but I do have crossover steering aka high steer which makes it easier on the system to turn the big tires.
I'm gonna to a PSC setup at some point (I already have the pump and some other parts from a buddy of mine who swapped a CR into his SD and no longer needed them).
Personally, I would recommend PSC or ORU way before AGR......sucks that PSC doesn't have anything for you.
I've known of too many issues with AGR over the years. Even though I did fix a FUBAR'd install of a Rock Ram with a buddy of mine and the guy liked the system once we got it working properly, I'd still be hesitant to run one.
I run 38s and have run 40s and still have my stock box, but I do have crossover steering aka high steer which makes it easier on the system to turn the big tires.
I'm gonna to a PSC setup at some point (I already have the pump and some other parts from a buddy of mine who swapped a CR into his SD and no longer needed them).
Either way I probably need to replace the box since Ford didnt put the Pitman on right when they put the lift on.. For 8 months it was sitting at the very bottom of the spline and it chewed it up pretty good.. I figure I might as well replace it since we had to replace damn near everything else in the course of repair..
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Originally Posted by DCSpecial
Have you tried ORU??
Personally, I would recommend PSC or ORU way before AGR......sucks that PSC doesn't have anything for you.
I've known of too many issues with AGR over the years. Even though I did fix a FUBAR'd install of a Rock Ram with a buddy of mine and the guy liked the system once we got it working properly, I'd still be hesitant to run one.
I run 38s and have run 40s and still have my stock box, but I do have crossover steering aka high steer which makes it easier on the system to turn the big tires.
I'm gonna to a PSC setup at some point (I already have the pump and some other parts from a buddy of mine who swapped a CR into his SD and no longer needed them).
Personally, I would recommend PSC or ORU way before AGR......sucks that PSC doesn't have anything for you.
I've known of too many issues with AGR over the years. Even though I did fix a FUBAR'd install of a Rock Ram with a buddy of mine and the guy liked the system once we got it working properly, I'd still be hesitant to run one.
I run 38s and have run 40s and still have my stock box, but I do have crossover steering aka high steer which makes it easier on the system to turn the big tires.
I'm gonna to a PSC setup at some point (I already have the pump and some other parts from a buddy of mine who swapped a CR into his SD and no longer needed them).
Bad boxes ? Were they installed correctly ? Bad hoses ? Just curious because I'm trying to do my homework before mine dies or before I upgrade. What part of thier system is the weak link ?
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All the ones I've heard of were bad pumps and boxes. I remember one guy on TDS had 3 pumps fail on him in a row. Never heard or seen any hose or cylinder issues?
Being as all my contacts in the off road industry stopped using AGR products a few years ago, and most people buy ORU and PSC, I don't have any recent info on their stuff.
PSC does (or at least did) have stuff for the 7.3....I have their pump sitting in a box in my garage.
Being as all my contacts in the off road industry stopped using AGR products a few years ago, and most people buy ORU and PSC, I don't have any recent info on their stuff.
PSC does (or at least did) have stuff for the 7.3....I have their pump sitting in a box in my garage.
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Originally Posted by rugermack
DcSpecial, what kind of problems did you experience with AGR ? Bad Pumps ?
Bad boxes ? Were they installed correctly ? Bad hoses ? Just curious because I'm trying to do my homework before mine dies or before I upgrade. What part of thier system is the weak link ?
Bad boxes ? Were they installed correctly ? Bad hoses ? Just curious because I'm trying to do my homework before mine dies or before I upgrade. What part of thier system is the weak link ?
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Originally Posted by Storm
I called around.. HOWE Performance doesnt make boxes for the Road.. PCS Motorsports doesn't make boxes for 04's either.. So I talked to AGR.. He can sell me a Ram Assisted for $1000.. Upgraded Stock Pump with Ports, Gearbox and Hydraulic Dampner Cylinder.. Said it'll keep my front end perfect.. What do ya'll think?
I know our boxes suck.. They blow out too fast, with me running the lift and wanting 37's soon.. I figured it'll be $300-400 for a decent box, why not spend some extra and get a really good system that'll hold..
Opinions?
I know our boxes suck.. They blow out too fast, with me running the lift and wanting 37's soon.. I figured it'll be $300-400 for a decent box, why not spend some extra and get a really good system that'll hold..
Opinions?
Talk to Marty at Truck Toyz, he has installed ram assist on some of his trucks. Ask what he recommends for your application.
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