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"Mifflin Clay"
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From: Mifflin, PA
Originally Posted by X_Hemi_Guy
My experiences towing with the 2V thru the Big Horns and Rockies (~9700' climbs) would say that either would improve things but BOTH would be KILLER.
The 4 speed is 'okay' ... BUT 1st and 2nd are spaced WAY too far apart.
The 3V from what I hear from my buds that have them prefers a slightly lower RPM (3000) as the 'low' spot for power over the 2V (3200)...that makes a big difference when pulling heavy on a steep grade...
BUT I guess the torque shift with the tow/haul mode alone could be more beneficial...all I know is those extra ~22ft-lbs of torque and 52HP would be nice to have sometimes!...so for me it would be a toss up I guess as I see both having advantages...but BOTH together...man that would have been killer in the EX!!!
The 4 speed is 'okay' ... BUT 1st and 2nd are spaced WAY too far apart.
The 3V from what I hear from my buds that have them prefers a slightly lower RPM (3000) as the 'low' spot for power over the 2V (3200)...that makes a big difference when pulling heavy on a steep grade...
BUT I guess the torque shift with the tow/haul mode alone could be more beneficial...all I know is those extra ~22ft-lbs of torque and 52HP would be nice to have sometimes!...so for me it would be a toss up I guess as I see both having advantages...but BOTH together...man that would have been killer in the EX!!!
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"Mifflin Clay"
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From: Mifflin, PA
Originally Posted by MarkMoore
I'm like Monsta - if I had the choice I'd choose the Torque shift. I think the raw HP/TQ difference between the 2v and 3v are minimal - the HP/TQ 'at the wheels' difference is probably delivered from the Torque Shift tranny.
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Originally Posted by alchymist
Nope, torqshift doesn't make the diff.....(tho torqshift by itself would be an improvment behind any of the engines vs previous tranies) ..traded a 2005 F250 5.4/torqshift for 2008 F350 V10/torqshift - big difference, and tranny is the same in both vehicles. & the V10 makes it's torque at a lower rpm. Speaking of which, anyone have a torque curve for the 3V V10? I heard/read somewhere that the 3V V10 puts out close to 80% of its rated torque just above idle. Like to see the torque curves for both 5.4 & V10 3 valve. Anybody?
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"Mifflin Clay"
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From: Mifflin, PA
Originally Posted by MarkMoore
Yep, that difference would be totally expected. But I still believe that if you were to take a two v10's, one with the 4r100 and one with the Torque Shift, you'd see a noticeable difference at the wheels. That's purely my opinion, I could be wrong... it happens on occaision.
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