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Old Nov 8, 2007 | 11:09 AM
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Yes, I got mine from Dennis @ ITP. It's something like $45 without the filter and around $100 with a real nice filter/water separator & mounting bracket. I also got the HPX when I ordered the Hutch kit. The reason I didn't go for the filter option is I think it's overkill -- just my opinion here (I'm also cheap sometimes ). The $5 clear filter I got from wally-world will keep any trash out of the pump as well as or better than the screens in the mixing chamber.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2007 | 11:14 AM
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I have a TS Performnace 6 position and I have an early 99 with a 6 speed. The 140 horse setting is definatly not for everyday driving only for the occasional play time. You will get more power out of the 140 horse and of course smoke. My old powerstroke was an 02 it was running 28PSI and this truck I'm running 35 PSI of boost and I have blown the doors of the 02.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2007 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by stang8893
I have a TS Performnace 6 position and I have an early 99 with a 6 speed. The 140 horse setting is definatly not for everyday driving only for the occasional play time. You will get more power out of the 140 horse and of course smoke. My old powerstroke was an 02 it was running 28PSI and this truck I'm running 35 PSI of boost and I have blown the doors of the 02.
How are you getting 35psi of boost and what other mods to you have? Stock (or mild mods) for stock, the '02 has more pep. The 17* HPOP and bigger intake & injectors make it that way.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2007 | 11:24 AM
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AFE stage 2 intake, MBRP 5 inch exhaust, South bend 550 horse clutch. The 02 had a 4 inch exhaust 4inch lift on 35's and it was an automatic. I beat my 02 with both truck on 100hp settings
 
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Old Nov 8, 2007 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by stang8893
AFE stage 2 intake, MBRP 5 inch exhaust, South bend 550 horse clutch. The 02 had a 4 inch exhaust 4inch lift on 35's and it was an automatic. I beat my 02 with both truck on 100hp settings
Autos are generally faster, but the added lift/tires on the '02 would definitely make a difference. Also, no other supporting mods on the '02 will further cripple it. OH, and if you're running your stock turbo to 35psi (which ain't easy, BTW) don't expect it to last much longer. Most I could get out of mine with the stock late wheel (and later larger housing obviously) was about 28ish. But the early wheel is known to move less air, so I now top out right at 25 where its max is before losing serious amounts of efficiency. Not sure how the smaller turbo with a wheel that moves less air gets to 35psi, but I do believe that the earlier turbo is setup about the same as far as efficiency. Be careful!

In my case, I have beaten or at least hung with mod'ed Chevys and Dodges with the mods listed below. Stock trucks of either kind have been no match for me. Looking forward to see how I do on the dyno though...
 
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Old Nov 8, 2007 | 12:38 PM
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With out the chip the truck had 25-26psi I really don't think the previous owner did anything to the truck being that everything on the truck was stock.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2007 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by stang8893
With out the chip the truck had 25-26psi I really don't think the previous owner did anything to the truck being that everything on the truck was stock.
something is not right..where are you reading your boost from??

i second what izzy said about the intank mod...do it..looking at pix and reading how to do this mod is a lot harder then just doing it..i noticed a little better MPG and the injector's are alot more quitter now..i can still hear #6 and #8 but its a lot better..it also runs alot more smoother at idle..i used the ITP kit with the filter and water drain..i also like the idea you have with the clear bubble Joe..
 
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Old Nov 8, 2007 | 02:39 PM
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It is possible the previous owner used a programmer and did not return it back to stock. This could be the explaintion of the higher boost with no chip installed.

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Old Nov 8, 2007 | 02:59 PM
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Actually I never thought about the previous owner having a tuner.
I have had 2 different gauges for boost just to make sure they were reading right. I'm getting my boost reading digitally from the MAP sensor and also Manually. The manual one I drilled and tapped the “Y” pipe in front of the turbo. And if this wasn't enough I even spliced into the MAP line with a “T” fitting.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2007 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by stang8893
Actually I never thought about the previous owner having a tuner.
I have had 2 different gauges for boost just to make sure they were reading right. I'm getting my boost reading digitally from the MAP sensor and also Manually. The manual one I drilled and tapped the “Y” pipe in front of the turbo. And if this wasn't enough I even spliced into the MAP line with a “T” fitting.
The maximum boost pressure directly at the turbo outlet will be several psi higher than at the MAP sensor in the intake manifold due to the pressure drop in the IC.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2007 | 03:28 PM
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Hy-Gene (something a lot of folks are lacking around here!!). Thanks -- looking forward to getting back to the States. Nothing like a trip over here to make one realize how good we have it.

EDIT: BTW, what the heck are you doing up?? It's ~lunch time here, but we're 7-10 hours ahead of you here, depending where you are...
I haven't heard the "hygiene" joke in awhile. I'm in Morgan Hill, CA the home of 5.6 earthquakes! I was just getting ready to eat my bedtime snack when you appeared. Maybe we can get a good debate going from a land far away! Which way is up? I'll let you have the white pieces and make the first move!
 
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Old Nov 8, 2007 | 08:21 PM
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Since I have installed real gauges, not the digital ones I use to have and have the DP tuner, I have hit 30-32#
 
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Old Nov 8, 2007 | 08:24 PM
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Another guy at work has an early 99 with a manuel also and he is getting 33# out of his.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2007 | 01:09 AM
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Wow. I wonder if the smaller tubing & spider causes higher boost pressures. Gene has the early 99 as well and I know he's not seeing those kinds of boost numbers. But I'm thinking along the same lines as Diane. Your "stock" numbers sound like tuned numbers to me.

Gene --> I couldn't resist considering some of the olfactory delights I've encountered so far. Since you're still in Cali, I'm 10 hours ahead of you. It's ~9am here, so that makes it yesterday where you are. Up for me is approximately 90 degrees off of up for you...
 
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Old Nov 9, 2007 | 04:58 AM
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i am tuned with DP tuner and with the red line unhooked on my early 99 i could get 32 to 33 and 26 to 27 red line hooked..it is very hard on an early 99 turbo to do this....i can do the same with the 99.5 turbo with the wicked wheel only the 99.5 pushes more air
so i run 100 to 150 cooler EGT's..but it is still not good for the turbo to go over 25lb..you can build the same boost## but its in a smaller tank..meaning less air..the painted parts in the pix below are the 99.5 turbo..you can see why it flows more air then the early 99...i am not saying you are not hitting 35..but it is rare to here it on a non chiped stock turbo..





 

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