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Me personally, I like the Ruger P-90. I have a pair of them and it's generally what I carry when I carry. The only downside is that you'll want to change the grips unless you have pretty large hands, it's a bulky grip.
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Originally Posted by dragogt
the bumper statement was for demonstrative purposes only.
A far as experience go's, I've got about 1000 rounds give or take down range, I know it's not a lot but its some. (dads had a couple of pistols and brother is in the sheriff's department) but I do have my lvl 3 security license.
that said I would love to go through a good defensive shooting class to get the reaction times and stress shooting thing wired. but I'll consider myself lucky to get the pistol.
it's like a story I heard (don't know how true) about a officer and a crook that got into a shoot out less than 15 feet from each other something like 30-40 rounds fired and nobody was hurt.
A far as experience go's, I've got about 1000 rounds give or take down range, I know it's not a lot but its some. (dads had a couple of pistols and brother is in the sheriff's department) but I do have my lvl 3 security license.
that said I would love to go through a good defensive shooting class to get the reaction times and stress shooting thing wired. but I'll consider myself lucky to get the pistol.
it's like a story I heard (don't know how true) about a officer and a crook that got into a shoot out less than 15 feet from each other something like 30-40 rounds fired and nobody was hurt.
FYI - the Steyr is a DAO too, but it just seems to feel better. The FN is a DA/SA so you have your choice. So are the Firestorms. I am collecting handguns right now so the XD might be my next item of study. Although I might pick up "the Judge" first. That looks like a different kind of fun.
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Para Ordnance or H&K, then Sig, but I think most are a bit over $500 now. Springfield loves to taut about being American, but they manufacture the XD overseas. American Rifleman reviewed it a few months back. It didn't shoot too straight and they couldn't say anything exceptional about it. Glock has a poor trigger feel IMHO and accuracy is fair. I never favored Sig's decocker, but they shoot well. Lots of choices out there. You need to narrow down what trigger configuration, barrel length and capacity you want. You may like Para's new LDA trigger. It's nice but those models are a bit heavier.
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Originally Posted by Netfly
Para Ordnance or H&K, then Sig, but I think most are a bit over $500 now. Springfield loves to taut about being American, but they manufacture the XD overseas. American Rifleman reviewed it a few months back. It didn't shoot too straight and they couldn't say anything exceptional about it. Glock has a poor trigger feel IMHO and accuracy is fair. I never favored Sig's decocker, but they shoot well. Lots of choices out there. You need to narrow down what trigger configuration, barrel length and capacity you want. You may like Para's new LDA trigger. It's nice but those models are a bit heavier.
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You may like the H&K USP compact. The safety can be relocated for a lefty and they can configure the trigger control 10 different ways to suit you.
http://www.hk-usa.com/usp_compact_general.html
I like the Para 1911 type too. It's not ambidextrous, just traditional.
http://www.paraord.com/product/category.html?cat=20
http://www.hk-usa.com/usp_compact_general.html
I like the Para 1911 type too. It's not ambidextrous, just traditional.
http://www.paraord.com/product/category.html?cat=20
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i would just go with a .40 or a 9, heck, even the SEAL's are carrying sig p226? 9mm in iraq.
h&k usp40 is my fav, love the round and the feel and does not feel as ackward (to me) as my .45 p220 and glock 21.
the h&k compact is going to be my next gun.
what ever you do, stay away from jennings.
h&k usp40 is my fav, love the round and the feel and does not feel as ackward (to me) as my .45 p220 and glock 21.
the h&k compact is going to be my next gun.
what ever you do, stay away from jennings.
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Originally Posted by Netfly
You may like the H&K USP compact. The safety can be relocated for a lefty and they can configure the trigger control 10 different ways to suit you.
http://www.hk-usa.com/usp_compact_general.html
I like the Para 1911 type too. It's not ambidextrous, just traditional.
http://www.paraord.com/product/category.html?cat=20
http://www.hk-usa.com/usp_compact_general.html
I like the Para 1911 type too. It's not ambidextrous, just traditional.
http://www.paraord.com/product/category.html?cat=20
I'd love a h&k but unless I can fined a really good deal, probably not gonna happen and as far as the para I don't wont to have to shift the weapon in my hand to decock, work the safety, or drop the clip
Originally Posted by bf250
i would just go with a .40 or a 9, heck, even the SEAL's are carrying sig p226? 9mm in iraq.
h&k usp40 is my fav, love the round and the feel and does not feel as awkward (to me) as my .45 p220 and glock 21.
the h&k compact is going to be my next gun.
what ever you do, stay away from jennings.
h&k usp40 is my fav, love the round and the feel and does not feel as awkward (to me) as my .45 p220 and glock 21.
the h&k compact is going to be my next gun.
what ever you do, stay away from jennings.
you, may be more up to date on what the military is doing, but last I heard they were going back to the .45
what's wrong with jennings? not that i ever heard of them.
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Originally Posted by dragogt
what's wrong with jennings? not that i ever heard of them.
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Originally Posted by Buckarcher
Built cheap, very heavy, accuracy is intermittent. I have one, the only reason I keep it is to have a cheap something to plant on an intruder if I shoot him in my house and find he wasn't carrying.
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i had fun with a jennings before, to get it to fire you had to pull the trigger and hit the back of it at the same time, makes for fun but bad accuracy.
i have also a high standard .22, the hammer is broke, so when you fire it the gun keeps firing like an automatic, but just can't stop it until it runs out of ammo. and yes, it is sitting tore apart now for that reason.
the .45 is not ever coming back, if anything the .40 is gaining popularity among special services for the weapon of choice. the 9mm is the standard nato round, cheap and not going anywhere.
i was tlaking .22 for this reason, most cc situations to joe public will occur at less than 5 feet, a .22 will drop someone dead at that range just as good as anyone else, any long of a range you need or if you have to shoot through something like glass obviously will nulify the need for personal defense and will more be considered offense, your life is not much threatened by someone 10 yards away.
the .22 is small, light weight and perfect for carrying on a day to day basis.
i have also a high standard .22, the hammer is broke, so when you fire it the gun keeps firing like an automatic, but just can't stop it until it runs out of ammo. and yes, it is sitting tore apart now for that reason.
the .45 is not ever coming back, if anything the .40 is gaining popularity among special services for the weapon of choice. the 9mm is the standard nato round, cheap and not going anywhere.
i was tlaking .22 for this reason, most cc situations to joe public will occur at less than 5 feet, a .22 will drop someone dead at that range just as good as anyone else, any long of a range you need or if you have to shoot through something like glass obviously will nulify the need for personal defense and will more be considered offense, your life is not much threatened by someone 10 yards away.
the .22 is small, light weight and perfect for carrying on a day to day basis.
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Originally Posted by bf250
i have also a high standard .22, the hammer is broke, so when you fire it the gun keeps firing like an automatic, but just can't stop it until it runs out of ammo. and yes, it is sitting tore apart now for that reason.