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I'm only aware of about 8-10 people. Of course, these were issues reported to Edge and where I was involved. There are probably more cases in which I wasn't notified but I can't provide any statistics on that.
Of all the cases I had been involved in, most of them turned out to be a weak battery (dead cell in particular) causing the unit to keep rebooting. Replacement of the battery resolved most, if not all, of those issues. For the ones that battery wasn't the issue, a replacement unit resolved the problem.
So I can tell my friend he's 1 in 37,000 instead of one in a million? How many of those things have been sold? It figures that something so obscure would choose to cross paths with me.
I don't have any specific numbers, but based on my recollection of monthly sales I would say there should be about 22,000 to 25,000 units on the street. If there were 25 trucks with this issue, it puts your buddy at about 1 in 1000 (.1% failure rate). If 50 trucks had this issue, then it's 1 in 500 (.2% failure rate). This is statistically much less than the 2% average failure rate for performance electronics. Of course I am not including figures of ALL combined failures, such as damaged LCDs and DOA units but the numbers are still low.
But hey, it could be worse. It could be an XBox-360 and have a failure rate of 16%! Even TVs today have a failure rate of 6% over 4 years, so in the grand scheme of things the Evo is actually quite reliable. It just sucks when the Evo fails and leaves you stranded. At least if your TV breaks you can still drive to work!
When they fail and leave you stranded? Have they been known to crash the PCM while driving down the road or something, or do you mean while trying to program it?
My Sirius aftermarket satellite radio will kill my battery if I leave it on for 24 hours, even though it is only using power for the display.
I had my battery go dead a month ago. I changed the oil, started the truck to leak check, and then shut off. A half hour later, truck wouldn't start, and battery showed green in the window. Putting a charger on it, the damn thing showed it didn't needa charge. I pulled it out, took it to NAPA, and put a load meter on it. Sure enough, it had a shorted cell. No warning. No harm, no foul.
new battery installed and all is good.
When they fail and leave you stranded? Have they been known to crash the PCM while driving down the road or something, or do you mean while trying to program it?
I was referring to failing during programming. To my knowledge, they have never killed a PCM while driving. FWIW, the PCM can't go into a programming session if the vehicle is running. The PCM needs to power down and then restart in a Diagnostic mode before you can reprogram it.
I was referring to failing during programming. To my knowledge, they have never killed a PCM while driving. FWIW, the PCM can't go into a programming session if the vehicle is running. The PCM needs to power down and then restart in a Diagnostic mode before you can reprogram it.
Anyway, hope this helps.
I figured as much, but I'd never seen anything come to life on it's own other than my laptop without some sort of command issued by a person.
Because I drive my F150 only occasionally I keep it plugged into a Battery Tender Jr (about $25 dollars if you shop around). It keeps the battery topped off and is CPU controlled to help reverse any existing sulfication and prevent it from happening in the first place. Using one can dramatically extend the life of a battery. My 2000 Ranger has 135,000+ miles and the 8 year old OEM battery still tests in good condition, it uses a Battery Tender as well.
The Battery Tender Plus is $20 more. Only difference is its rated at a higher amperage but for constant trickle charging/float its overkill. The .75 amp Junior works great for my needs.
Its a good option if you often need to fully charge a dead battery (will do it in a few hours, the Junior takes at least a full day). If you use a Junior daily you won't run into the situation where you need to fully charge a battery, hence my feeling the Plus is overkill for most people. The Plus might also be an option if you have something draining power more than a constant .75 amps while the vehicle is turned off.
Good call on the tender. I keep one on my Porsche. Although I don't use it as much since I moved from Alaska to Ga. The car gets driven a little more down here. But they are a good item.
I guess Edge got his unit yesterday. They called him and said they are sending him a new one. He should get it next week, and I'll let you know if it happens again. I'm thinking about getting one myself to tweak some settings in my truck. We have a store open today (4th of July!!) that sells them.
2019 f250 with 4200 miles. My Edge CS2 has been making my truck message me BATTERY TOO LOW. START VEHICLE OR TURN IT OFF..paraphrasing a little!! My truck alerts me while DRIVING to “start or shut off key “!!
I have a super duty with dual alternator etc. I also hear multiple “clicking” sounds emanating from the headlight switch area - lower left panel while driving.
The battery warning started when initially setting up the tuner!! I finally decided to yank ITV it out at night. What a joke!! $ 550 😡
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