E-450 Ram Air
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E-450 Ram Air
Some interesting discussions in the archive. I could not find
anything on V10 intake mods, though. I am looking for something
similar to the ram air pictured in the Banks system pictured with the v10 on page 210 of the Camping World Master catalog.
Gotta say I love the engine. Only have 3100 miles and one trip on
it, but even loaded down with 14k pounds, it pulls like a train
thanks to that 4.6x gearing. In Oklahoma where the speed limit is
75, I had to lift because I was going 80 and the truck tires were
not balanced/round enough to handle it. But the engine had more
to give.
Also, changed the oil with the Ford 5w20 semi synthetic and filter.
Now how to I get a dealer to stamp my warranty book? It is a PITA
that there are so few Ford heavy truck dealers. Any other things I
need to keep up with or watch? I noticed the owner's manual said to switch to synthetic gear lube if I tow.
-Jim
2001 E-450 chassis with 2002 Motorhome on it
(previous '89, '96 and '98 SHOs)
anything on V10 intake mods, though. I am looking for something
similar to the ram air pictured in the Banks system pictured with the v10 on page 210 of the Camping World Master catalog.
Gotta say I love the engine. Only have 3100 miles and one trip on
it, but even loaded down with 14k pounds, it pulls like a train
thanks to that 4.6x gearing. In Oklahoma where the speed limit is
75, I had to lift because I was going 80 and the truck tires were
not balanced/round enough to handle it. But the engine had more
to give.
Also, changed the oil with the Ford 5w20 semi synthetic and filter.
Now how to I get a dealer to stamp my warranty book? It is a PITA
that there are so few Ford heavy truck dealers. Any other things I
need to keep up with or watch? I noticed the owner's manual said to switch to synthetic gear lube if I tow.
-Jim
2001 E-450 chassis with 2002 Motorhome on it
(previous '89, '96 and '98 SHOs)
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E-450 Ram Air
Hey there! Any mods on your E-450? Only thing I have
done so far to the truck portion is valve extenders to
the inner dualies. Lots of little tweaks to the motorhome
part.
Do you think the K&N filter alone makes any real hp in
the e-450 setup? I bet the'd get a laugh at me running
1/4 miles in it comparing filters at the track to see.
Really interested in ram-air if I can set it up.
-Jim
done so far to the truck portion is valve extenders to
the inner dualies. Lots of little tweaks to the motorhome
part.
Do you think the K&N filter alone makes any real hp in
the e-450 setup? I bet the'd get a laugh at me running
1/4 miles in it comparing filters at the track to see.
Really interested in ram-air if I can set it up.
-Jim
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E-450 Ram Air
I'm having the same problem. I have an E-350 15 passenger van, and I'd like to find an air intake system that will give back the 10 horsepower that is lost versus the pick-ups intake. I wrote to Banks and asked them if they had anything, but didn't get a response. If you find something I would appreciate a heads-up. I'm also considering the Banks header, even though the price seems extremely high. I've talked to a few other header manufacturers but none of them have decided to produce a product yet for us V-10 van/van conversion/class C people. I have also seen superchargers for the V-10, but only in the pick-up. Looking under my hood I sure don't see where there'd be room for that in there. The V-10 seems to be really popular with the RV, class C motorhome crowd. Why aren't there more engine mods made for us ? Write if you find anything, and I'll do the same, Ken 1998 Ford V-10 E-350 15 passenger XLT Club Wagon. I LOVE it !!
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E-450 Ram Air
There were mods made to the heads and to the intake manifold from what I understand to get 310 HP, so us early V-10 owners are out of luck unless we want to spend mega $$$ on those upgrades. And even then I don't know that the new heads/manifold will fit on earlier V-10's. Worse yet, the E series actually had 10 LESS HP (265) than the pick-up had. Due to the super restrictive air cleaner. I am going to try and adapt something to fit from K&N. They do not make a "Filtercharger" for the E series. The best a guy can do is put in a K&N filter, but that does not address the air filter housing, which is what really needs to be fixed to give us back our 10 HP.
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E-450 Ram Air
A junkyard hood and a scoop could help out with the crowding
underthere and give some cool air.
I hear there is a TSB on out on wet filters on the E-450s
and hard starting. The shield they add seems like it would make
air flow worse. I am going to check on mine and if there is
one, remove it since I have not heard of any hydrolock problems
blowing up engines, only hard starting.
If you copy me and do the same, Murphy's law says your engine will
suck 5 gallons of water and blow up, so do at your own risk.
-Jim
2001 E-450 V-10
underthere and give some cool air.
I hear there is a TSB on out on wet filters on the E-450s
and hard starting. The shield they add seems like it would make
air flow worse. I am going to check on mine and if there is
one, remove it since I have not heard of any hydrolock problems
blowing up engines, only hard starting.
If you copy me and do the same, Murphy's law says your engine will
suck 5 gallons of water and blow up, so do at your own risk.
-Jim
2001 E-450 V-10
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E-450 Ram Air
Ok looked at the stock intake. Sad sad sad thing.
Huge filter - very nice. Intake does 2 180's and scrunches down to a thin rechangle and plugs into a shroud over the radiator (HOT!!). Inside the shroud is a little plastic cover over the top of a small AC or trans cooler in front of the radiator with a little lit to direct some minor quantity of fresh air in at what is hopefully a positive air pressure (minor ram air).
The deflector plate WAS NOT ATTACHED PROPERLY making the opening about 1/2 the size it should have been. Also no apparent water deflection except maybe the two sharp curves, but they are almost horizontal. I snapped it in place. These van chassis intakes on the v-10 look like they could really benefit from a little air in.
Looks like they had to make some big compromized to fit the intake in there with this long engine. A ram-air hood with 1 custon 3" or 4" tube to connect it up would be just the ticket.
-Jim
Huge filter - very nice. Intake does 2 180's and scrunches down to a thin rechangle and plugs into a shroud over the radiator (HOT!!). Inside the shroud is a little plastic cover over the top of a small AC or trans cooler in front of the radiator with a little lit to direct some minor quantity of fresh air in at what is hopefully a positive air pressure (minor ram air).
The deflector plate WAS NOT ATTACHED PROPERLY making the opening about 1/2 the size it should have been. Also no apparent water deflection except maybe the two sharp curves, but they are almost horizontal. I snapped it in place. These van chassis intakes on the v-10 look like they could really benefit from a little air in.
Looks like they had to make some big compromized to fit the intake in there with this long engine. A ram-air hood with 1 custon 3" or 4" tube to connect it up would be just the ticket.
-Jim
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E-450 Ram Air
Yea it's quite a journey the air takes to get to the engine. I've seen some of the pics the guys with their F-series have done but I am convinced that a fresh air charge is a MUST. I am in contact with MacPerformance, Banks and Holley for a system. I will forward which one I go with and let you know how it works, Ken.
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E-450 Ram Air
I have not driven it since I made the discovery of the poorly assembled air flow diverter. It's parked at a local campground for the holiday weekend and a week after for inaugural party activities on the new camping season.
With the poor intake, I beat an early 90s escort with bad merging habits. It was kind of Darwinian of him to ignore a 14,000 lb vehicle with the right of way using a 2500 lb vehicle. I squeezed over into a lane of faster moving traffic to let him in. He took my acceleration as a challenge (if he had accelerated more earlier, he could have easily gotten in ahead of me). So I kept it at WOT until 80 and walked away from him. Can you imagine being outrun by 31' of motorhome on the highway - a vehicle that has the aerodynamics and weight of a single-wide mobile home?
Ya know, I used to race camaros, mustangs, at least Maximas and GTPs. Now I'm running against Escorts....
I did not do any g-tec readings but I can do some before and after by putting back the intake to it's badly-assembled condition.
I'm asking for the Helms manual for Father's day. What an exciting life I lead.
-Jim
2001 E-450 Cutaway Chassis
With the poor intake, I beat an early 90s escort with bad merging habits. It was kind of Darwinian of him to ignore a 14,000 lb vehicle with the right of way using a 2500 lb vehicle. I squeezed over into a lane of faster moving traffic to let him in. He took my acceleration as a challenge (if he had accelerated more earlier, he could have easily gotten in ahead of me). So I kept it at WOT until 80 and walked away from him. Can you imagine being outrun by 31' of motorhome on the highway - a vehicle that has the aerodynamics and weight of a single-wide mobile home?
Ya know, I used to race camaros, mustangs, at least Maximas and GTPs. Now I'm running against Escorts....
I did not do any g-tec readings but I can do some before and after by putting back the intake to it's badly-assembled condition.
I'm asking for the Helms manual for Father's day. What an exciting life I lead.
-Jim
2001 E-450 Cutaway Chassis
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