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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 01:34 PM
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turbo wheels

I heard a that the turbo wheel from 97 is more efficent and is a direct replacement for an 01. The 01 was design for quieter operation?

Is this true?
 
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 02:10 PM
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I have heard the same thing. I heard that the wicked wheel is basically built to the specs of the older turbos.
 
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 02:21 PM
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The Wicked Wheel is the exact same compressor wheel that comes on the early 99 truck. However, it is not more efficient, in fact it's more of the opposite. If you look at the compressor wheel of a 99.5 and up, every blade of the wheel is equal length. The WW is different, where every other blade is basically half length. The WW actually pushes less air, and typically when people install it they see a small drop in peak boost. The reason that folks install that wheel is because it helps cure most surge issues, not to gain power or boost.
 
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 03:05 PM
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I'm about to put one in my truck. Here's what it looks like:


However, I'm seeing plenty of boost (I've gotten up to almost 30psi), so a little less boost won't bother me. The surge going away and the extra whistle are my justifications...

Joe
 
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 03:42 PM
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Pocket, I am not trying argue with you necessarily, but according to Dieselsite.com the wicked wheel increases airflow.
<TABLE id=Table2 style="BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=2 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=ProdDisplay2 width="100%">Detailed Description </TD></TR><TR><TD class=sitewidefonts width="100%">The Wicked Wheel <SUP>®</SUP> will Reduce or Eliminate Turbo Flutter/Surge in your 1999.5-2003 7.3L Ford Powerstroke.

Free Turbo Pedestal O-rings included with each Wicked Wheel <SUP>®</SUP>


  • Increase Airflow
  • Lower Exhaust Temperatures
  • Increase Low-End Throttle Response
  • For use in 1999.5 - 2003 7.3L Ford Powerstrokes
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
that's from their description page located at:
http://www.dieselsite.com/index.asp?...PROD&ProdID=47

Now I realize that it is an advertisement and that sometimes there is a bit of promising the moon going on but that description says that there is an increase in airflow.
 
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 03:52 PM
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while towing with the WW this past weekend before i blew a brake line. I noticed no loss of max boost both stock wheel and WW were right at 18-19 psi. That is with no extra fuel mods. just whats in the sig. and my factory cut off exhaust.
 
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 05:04 PM
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The reason it actually moves more air, is with an free flowing intake system and large exhaust the stock wheel pushes more air than the housing can let through smoothly. The air bottlenecks like people merging into rush hour traffic. By pushing less air, it flows through more smoothly and doesn't try to push back thus increasing flow. By reducing friction, the temperature is also reduced.

lower air temp = more air in the same space = increased air flow

My '01 lost a little low end but gained middle and upper end power. The powerband is much more consistent and perfect for what I do which is tow. I did the intake, exhaust & wicked wheel more for longevity than for hod rodding. I want to get every mile I can out of the engine.

That's the condensed version and I'm sure there will be someone that chimes in with a more thorough explanation. I have to run.

Austin
 
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 06:41 PM
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It doesnt have every other blade clipped so to speak, there are more blades to begin with...
 
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 07:04 PM
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so which wheel is better for the stock housing?


stock, early wheel, or ww?
 
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 07:43 PM
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Has anyone actually done a cfm test to verify airflow one way or the other?
 
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 08:39 PM
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The WW and "early wheel" are one and the same, Rick.

I don't feel like going out and pulling my intake -- doesn't the stock wheel have 6 large vanes, where this one has 5 large & 5 small vanes?? I can't recall for the life of me...
 
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 10:15 PM
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That is a nice looking wheel you have there Joe...


Here it is.. the more vanes you have, the more airflow you'll have. The reason the WW reduces surge, is because it reduces performance actually. It's vane pitch and location is different from the stock wheel to move the surge point further to the left... it just moves the point where you can get surge, at the cost of airflow. If it drops the boost 2-3 psi, then HOW does it increase airflow? It actually lowers it, unlike what the "appealing" ads on the internet say. The WW is 5 tall and 5 short vanes, the stock wheel is 9 vanes all the same height.
 
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by strokin_it7.3
That is a nice looking wheel you have there Joe...
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SURE IS!!! Bet the rest of the folks can't guess where I got it from...

Dang, there are THAT many on the stock wheel?? I never counted, but for some reason, I didn't think there were that many... I trust you -- you ought to friggin' know!!!

...and I guess *I'll* know in a few days. My daughter said she'd help me out this weekend. Should be fun!!

BTW, somebody was asking about you in another thread. Forget which one though.
 
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Old Jul 11, 2007 | 01:42 AM
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My 2 cents it did reduce turbo surge truck and trailer around 20,0000
 
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