Trans Temp, Do you trust yours?
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From: Dallas-Ft. Worth
Originally Posted by cleatus12r
However, being that I am on the other end of that spectrum (the repair facility), I can tell you that 99 times out of 100 I would rather the General put in lights or "glorified idiot lights" instead of "real" gauges. Customers don't generally like that their oil pressure drops when idling (because they don't understand) or that the coolant temp gauge sometimes reads 230 degrees (normal). It sucks when you try to explain why the gauges move. Most folks don't need to know...a light is more than enough. For towing/problem children vehicles that NEED to know, that's fine....and the customer KNOWS what to look for. However, in an "A-hole van", there is absolutely NO need for gauges.
My neighbor had a Ford van where the JiffyChange forgot to tighten the oil filter AND plug. If he had more than glorified idiot lights, he may have seen the oil pressure going screwy before it dropped to zero the same time the motor locked up. Sorry, I don't buy it. Fortunately, the JiffyChange did, and they ended up with a new engine...
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Cheese and Rice, Batman!!! I didn't mean to offend you. Holy cow.
I'm just saying that for me to diagnose a "problem" under warranty, it costs ME money because I have 18 minutes to tell them that it's NORMAL........unscrewing the sender (likely by "braille" method), install an adapter, run a hose and gauge, tape it to the windshield, drive it, then write a detailed description of what I did.
Sorry I said anything.
I'm just saying that for me to diagnose a "problem" under warranty, it costs ME money because I have 18 minutes to tell them that it's NORMAL........unscrewing the sender (likely by "braille" method), install an adapter, run a hose and gauge, tape it to the windshield, drive it, then write a detailed description of what I did.
Sorry I said anything.
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From: Rio Rico, AZ.
Originally Posted by cleatus12r
Cheese and Rice, Batman!!! I didn't mean to offend you. Holy cow.
I'm just saying that for me to diagnose a "problem" under warranty, it costs ME money because I have 18 minutes to tell them that it's NORMAL........unscrewing the sender (likely by "braille" method), install an adapter, run a hose and gauge, tape it to the windshield, drive it, then write a detailed description of what I did.
Sorry I said anything.
I'm just saying that for me to diagnose a "problem" under warranty, it costs ME money because I have 18 minutes to tell them that it's NORMAL........unscrewing the sender (likely by "braille" method), install an adapter, run a hose and gauge, tape it to the windshield, drive it, then write a detailed description of what I did.
Sorry I said anything.
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From: Dallas-Ft. Worth
Originally Posted by cleatus12r
Cheese and Rice, Batman!!! I didn't mean to offend you. Holy cow.
I'm just saying that for me to diagnose a "problem" under warranty, it costs ME money because I have 18 minutes to tell them that it's NORMAL........unscrewing the sender (likely by "braille" method), install an adapter, run a hose and gauge, tape it to the windshield, drive it, then write a detailed description of what I did.
Sorry I said anything.
I'm just saying that for me to diagnose a "problem" under warranty, it costs ME money because I have 18 minutes to tell them that it's NORMAL........unscrewing the sender (likely by "braille" method), install an adapter, run a hose and gauge, tape it to the windshield, drive it, then write a detailed description of what I did.
Sorry I said anything.
Didn't mean to offend YOU!
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From: Hartford, WI
Originally Posted by Izzy351
No, you didn't offend me!!!! It just really gets my goat that *FORD* did that. The trucks need real gauges, not idiot lights. I would have preferred real gauges on my Ranger too, but did I *need* them, probably not. I would even argue that the 150 should have real gauges. I understand what you're saying -- my background is in service (not automotive), but telling a customer that their "problem" is completely normal operation of the device when they clearly don't like it acting that way is never pleasant. I just think it's a big mistake to make customers believe they have real gauges when they don't (look how many folks ask the question that started this thread).
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