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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 03:01 PM
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This one is a long one. I dont even know how to explain it. I have been doing some work latley, so my truck 96 F-350 CC has been sitting for about three weeks. I have done the Crank case mod and I had the fuel filter canister off and the DP off. I was going to take apart the turbo, but ended up stopping and I just put it back togather. I tried to start it today and it wont start, but my fear is that something might have fallen into the intake. The way the motor is acting makes me think that. Some where it is binding when I try to turn it over. It will turn over but every third or fourth time it totally acts like it is in a bind where it lunges forward but then the motor will actually rock back or wont go forward at all. I'm pretty carefull about things not getting into place they shouldn't be, but this is the only conclusion I can think. I was missing a bolt for the FPR, so I guess that could have magically made it in there. Can anyone tell me what would happen if a bolt or something made it into the intake? I just dont know. I have scratched my head at this one the whole day. Anybody have any suggestions? Thanks
 
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 03:05 PM
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If there was a bolt in the engine you would hear a metalic clanking sound while turning it over, that is if it has made it into a cylinder or valve. Are your batteries charged and terminals tight?
 
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 03:10 PM
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The batteries where well charged when the day started, but now they act a little weak. I reconnected them right before I tried to start it, so I know the connections where tight. I really didn't hear anything over the motor turning over, so I cant say there was or wasn't one.
 
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 03:15 PM
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I would check battery voltage and also pull the fuel filter cover back off and make sure you are getting fuel up in there. Sounds like weak batteries or starter maybe just not having enough to turn the motor over in the compression stroke?? Also, you didn't leave a rag or something up in your turbo did you? Don't ask why I'm asking that.... long story, haha
 
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 03:25 PM
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Thanks for a little laugh with the history. I'm so furstrated that stuff helps. I know I didn't leave a rag in the turbo, and I'm pretty sure its getting the power it needs. I can't see why it would turn over so well the first two or three times and then nothing just like that. Also dosen't a starter click if it dosen't have enough power?
 
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 03:26 PM
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i think he covered everything lol
 
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 03:32 PM
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The starter itself could be weak... If you think there is a bolt in the engine though, I would pull the y pipe off and fish around with a mirror in the intakes and see what you can find. You did verify it is getting fuel now right?
 
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 03:39 PM
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I beleive that it is getting fuel. The fuel canister did fill up, but it did run for a minute when I sprayed some starter fluid in it. This was before it started acting like something was in it, I'm not positive but I think it is getting fuel. Also I get no read out on codes. Wouldn't it pull a code for low battery power or no fuel preasure?
 
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 04:14 PM
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Does anybody know the damage that a boolt could cause in the intake? I hope this isn't it, but I'm out of answers. What else could it be?
 
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 04:16 PM
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Did you disconnect the glow plugs before you put either into it. I have heard of either damaging these engines.
 
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 04:24 PM
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No I didn't disconnect the glow plugs, but I'm not sure how that would be the problem? What damage can it cause?
 
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 04:39 PM
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I have heard that either can cause bent valves or rods. The glow plugs are all on at the same time unlike spark plugs that only fire when there needed. This would cause firing at the wrong time. I hope this isn't what is wrong with your truck. I would not use anymore either in your engine.
 
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 07:51 PM
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Casey the best thing to do is get on the crank bolt and turn the engine over by hand a few times to verify that it will turn over freely. A bolt in the intake would be bad! more than likly it wouldn't make it into the cylinder but it could get stuck at the intake vavle and hold the vavle open which would contact the piston. I think the crank bolt is 15/16 but not sure. but you need to turn the engine over atleast twice. if it turns over then you have starter issues.
 
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 10:23 PM
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ok i think i missed something along the way... did you drop it before the turbo?? cause wouldn't it get sucked up by that and pretty much destroy the turbo??
 
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Old Jul 8, 2007 | 11:55 AM
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Unhappy Still need lots of help

Glasseater I had both pipes off the turbo. This is why I think it may have gotten into the motor through the intake you know after the y pipe. I was hoping you would chime in Tim. I can try your methode but it only seem to be getting cought every so often. I started of trying to start the truck after putting a new fuel filter in, so I new it was going to take a good couple of cranks to build preasure in the system. Well after about three times of cranking with no problem I decided I would try this starter fluid that a friend had given me. The truck fired right up and shot to 2500 rpms for about ten seconds and then died. I thought then that maybe it just needs to get more fuel to the cylinders so I continued every five minutes or so to give it a crank. Well at this time I think maybe something made it in to the engine cause the engine would not rotate. It sounded like it had the power and wanted to, but couldn't. Would this scenario keep an engine from turning over? I cant see anything in the intake, but I'm sure if it was in there that now it is in the head maybe caught in the valves like you said Tim. I really dont know what to do. I can start taking things apart, but I'm not sure I even know where to start or what I'm looking for? I gues nobody has ever had anything like this happen to them?
 
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