Big engine problem
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Valve covers
My question would be could I remove the valve cover and see something if a bolt was stuck in the valve? Someone know of a trick to find out or to look at one with out taking the engine completley apart? I suppose if there is a bolt in the valve that would mean that I need to remove the head to get it out right?
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From: MICHIGAN
You won't see the valves by removing the valve covers but you will see the push rods & rockers. Check the lash and look for bent push rods. See if the injectors are squirting oil while cranking too.
Remove the sheet metal intake from the head, the intake valves will be visible but it's not going to tell you much unless you spot the bolt you think is in there. BTW: does't the sheetmetal intake have a screen in it. I seem to recall see one but I may be wrong. If there is a screen the bolt wouldn't make it to the valves.
It sounds like you used way too much ether and may have caused some internal damage to the engine IMO. I hope not. That stuff can be dangerous in the wrong hands. If you must use it, just wiff it over the intake, don't spray it into the engine.
Remove the sheet metal intake from the head, the intake valves will be visible but it's not going to tell you much unless you spot the bolt you think is in there. BTW: does't the sheetmetal intake have a screen in it. I seem to recall see one but I may be wrong. If there is a screen the bolt wouldn't make it to the valves.
It sounds like you used way too much ether and may have caused some internal damage to the engine IMO. I hope not. That stuff can be dangerous in the wrong hands. If you must use it, just wiff it over the intake, don't spray it into the engine.
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Liek Jim said the sheetmetal intake might have a screen at the inlet. if not the bolt should have fallen straight down so you might be able to see it just by taking the y-pipe off. I would still try to rotate the engine by hand. Also if you have been cranking much since the batteries were charged you should charge or jump them. I think I would be searching the valley really hard to see if you can locate that bolt somewhere other than in the intake! I might even go so far as to remove the filter housing and search around.
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From: hillsborough nj
Originally Posted by 61 uni
There is a lot of places for a bolt to hide. I still haven't lost the 10mm wrench I lost replacing vacuum pump.
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Update
Well I have an update. I dont believe the bolt is in the valley. When I change the filter I took it all out to clean out the valley, so I'm pretty sure its not down there. Today I took my valve covers off and looked around. I cant see any bent rods or odd looking valve stems. I haven't been able to turn the engine myself cause I dont have a socket that large. I did find that my valve cover gasket are toast you can see the pics. Does anybody know why this would happen and a good place to get some new ones? I guess I should first replace those and find out why it did that, but I dont think that this would keep my engine from starting. I know our engine can start without a glow plug when it warm, but how warm does it have to be? Thanks for the help and suggestions. I'm just scratching my head at this whole problem.
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well I don't see any pics but my guess is it just the common failure of the gaskets that happens every now and then. Gasket can be had on ebay as well as here
http://catalog.powerstrokeshop.com/p...&subcat2=86763
I have also heard that napa has begun to carry them as well. I think its time to pull the y-pipe back off your truck and start looking down in there. And once you find the right size socket turn the engine over.
Does anybody know for sure what size the crank pulley bolt is so he doesn't have to screw around with it?
http://catalog.powerstrokeshop.com/p...&subcat2=86763
I have also heard that napa has begun to carry them as well. I think its time to pull the y-pipe back off your truck and start looking down in there. And once you find the right size socket turn the engine over.
Does anybody know for sure what size the crank pulley bolt is so he doesn't have to screw around with it?
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I think the pics are in my gallery now under gaskets. I think. Let me know if you can see them. I would like to know if its just a gasket failure or is something causeing it to do that. Its all burnt up on one side of the connection.
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Okay I'll be sure to test the glow plugs. Also do you think that if a bolt was stuck that I would be able to see maybe a valve stuck in the compressed postion or maybe a bent rod? I can't see either. Maybe I need to wait to get a socket on it and turn the engine myself while watching. I sure dont want to pull the head, but if I have to then I should order gaskets soon.
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The only way you would be able to see the valve stuck open was if the engine was in just the right position to have the rocker all the way up but the valve was still stuck open (valve stem down) and the rocker are was loose. Hard to explain I hope you understand. Either way if the bolt is in the cylinder or stuck the valve open rotating the engine by hand will tell you.
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Originally Posted by tjbeggs
Does anybody know for sure what size the crank pulley bolt is so he doesn't have to screw around with it?