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My truck is going into Ford this Friday (04/27/07) for the same problem. I was pulling my fifth wheel for the first time this year this last weekend,and I didnt think I was going to make it.Changed the fuel filter at camp sight and that didnt help.Called Ford this morning and its going in.My truck only has 28k on it,bought it new in 2004 and after it got 5500 miles on it the inj. froze open and hyd. locked the engine. They (Ford) replaced it and the turbo, get this, with a rebuilt engine.Now, 23k miles later and after other trips back to ford for overheating problems,reflashing etc. Its going back in. I have never been dissatisfied with a product in my life. Ford needs to get off of there high horse a realize that they are losing customers. I thought I would be keeping this truck for a good long time.GMC is looking better and ever, especially with the new ugly freaky new Fords. Wont buy one just because of the looks and the problems Ford is having with their supplier for thier engines. Hey lets all get a lawyer and..........
One great thing about this forum is that it creates a place for owners to exchange information. I have always suspected that my truck isn't the only one acting like this. I don't expect the Ford dealer to admit that there have been major problems with the turbo and related systems in many early 6.0 diesels. But the more we share our experiences and problems, the closer we get to getting Ford to make things right for everyone that bought a Super Duty like ours.
I would assume you have contacted their Customer Relations Center about your truck...but have you written a letter to the Dispute Settlement Board? The process to follow is found in your warrenty book that came with the truck. I sent both customer service and the dispute resolution board a letter and DVD of the video I posted on U-Tube, no response yet.
I totally understand your frustration, lets keep the heat on! If Ford doesn't take care of their customers and earn our loyalty back, their losses will only increase...the way I see it, it's their choice whether we stay or leave.
I just installed a Banks filter,should I change it out before I take the truck in? Thats all the mods that I have ever done to this truck.....Thanks.
I wouldn't think that a filter would void the warranty like a chip or tuner may, but someone with more knowledge in this area might jump in and give you more information. My truck has been totally stock from the day I drove it off the lot.
I have a 04 F250, mine started after the EGR valve was replaced and reprogramed at 59000, now have 63000. I took it in on friday with the same sound BUT mine does it when I let off the peddle. The mechanic told me it was from buildup in the turbo. He said he was going to replace the turbo. At the same time, when cold, the transmission would not shift unless I let off the peddle. Once warmed-up OK. So I've got two things being fixed. Will keep you posted to the outcome.
Check at little line that runs from the engine to the MAP sensor, and check if the fitting is pluged. My 04 F450 did the same thing under load, turn out to be the line was kinked when they installed the vmac air compresure. Had the truck in a Ford three times and they could't figger it out.
i had the exact same problem with mine. first they replaced the turbo cuz it was rusted. that didnt solve the problem. then they cleaned the EGR. this helped a bit but eventually was back to the same problem. so i had them replace the EGR. problem solved. as far as what else was done.... they didn't tell me.
i had the exact same problem with mine. first they replaced the turbo cuz it was rusted. that didnt solve the problem. then they cleaned the EGR. this helped a bit but eventually was back to the same problem. so i had them replace the EGR. problem solved. as far as what else was done.... they didn't tell me.
How many miles did you have on the truck when it started to act up? And now that the turbo and EGR have been replaced, how many miles have you put on the truck. I guess my concern is that even with replacing the turbo and EGR, the same thing will occur in the future because what ever is causing the problem is still there, at least in the trucks that have this problem. So are we faced with replacing the turbo and EGR every 20 to 30 K miles? Hope not.
Mine (F-350 2006) only happens when I let go of the throttle. They replaced the EGR and gave me some bulletin about how it doesn't hurt the truck. It made the noise a couple of times since they replaced the EGR. Talking to a different dealer to see what to do, my buddy knows the owner, maybe they will do more.... I only drive mine about once a week or so.
whow that sounds awful.
i will stop complaining about a small turbo whine in my 05 f350 4x4 cc 6.0l drw lariat with 33k mi. most all mi. are towing large 5th wheel.
thanks to fte i will be cleaning the egr valve, changing the fuel filters and leaving the air filter alone.
good luck in getting ford to fix truck.
I have an 03 with 45000 miles on it and it has never done that, i have a friend who is a diesel tech and he said the vvt was notorious for sticking vanes if the truck sat for an extended period mine is a 6 spd and he said it doesnt bother because i drive it like i stole it.
mine is a 6 spd and he said it doesnt bother because i drive it like i stole it.
concerning our service trucks, the local deealership that looked at them under warrenty told us to drive them hard, WOT acceleration helps keep the vains cleared and less idling. Unfortantly were still having a few issues because of the idling.........so the dealership said.
the only thing my trubo makes is boost. besides the noise around 5 psi. like someone is whistleing over a beer bottle makeing that whooo noise. but fellow fte's told me this is normal.
the only thing my trubo makes is boost. besides the noise around 5 psi. like someone is whistleing over a beer bottle makeing that whooo noise. but fellow fte's told me this is normal.
I had the exact same thing as you...It's as normal as that third eye ya got growing on your forehead.
It's not turbo fart and the faint whistle you hear when letting off the throttle (blowing across the top of the beer bottle is an exact analogy) is the sound of boost being lost out the leaky head gaskets. Just had mine done for the exact same issue, slight puke in the degas, some slight coolant loss and that annoying ghost whoooooing in the background (also seemed worse when it was cold out), the result was one warped head and both gaskets replaced and the truck seems to have a heck of a lot more stock horsepower than it used to. Get it checked ASAP before ya blow it up.
if this was a major problem wouldnt i see antifreeze leaking or another sign. many people have told me this is normal. i dont know how true it is but my truck is an 07 i bought it with 18k on it and a clean oasis. so i doubt this is a big problem. at least i hope not. Anyone else have this noise and saw it to be a problem??
Another thing is i hate to have to go to the dealership and have them *****ers lie to me and say it is normal and have it be a big problem later. or have them mess it up even more.
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if this was a major problem wouldn't i see antifreeze leaking or another sign. many people have told me this is normal. i don't know how true it is but my truck is an 07 i bought it with 18k on it and a clean oasis. so i doubt this is a big problem. at least i hope not. Anyone else have this noise and saw it to be a problem??
Another thing is i hate to have to go to the dealership and have them *****ers lie to me and say it is normal and have it be a big problem later. or have them mess it up even more.
Do what ya like....I had the exact same issue as you and I just posted the outcome. If you want to believe that it is not a big issue, then leave it alone. I know the whistle annoyed the crap outta me and having that repaired alone was worth taking it in.
As I indicated, I saw slight coolant loss from the degas bottle (puked just a little outta the lid) so there was a light white residue on the bottle and drivers side of the engine. I saw no coolant on the ground or in the oil and there was no significant increase in steam on cold start. I was lucky...If you got more steam in the exhaust too that means the gasket is leaking into your intake and could result in pitting of the pistons and premature wear on the cylinder walls, another symptom of this is longer than usual cranking time. If you are loosing it in the oil then loss of lubricity.
All I know is the truck starts better, runs smoother on cold start and has more stock HP than it did before and no whistle.....
turbo not a doubt... had the same noise/hiccup/lack of power etc... on all the fords we owned, and both of our o7 leased units... and carbon was not the issue. even the new design for late 05,06,07 do it. time for a we bit of warranty before the vanes take out your y pipe!!