Well at least we have some real feedback from it. May sound like something we may want to do. What would the additive do to an oil analysis report as far as the elements in PPM? Is it 64 ounces of oil that you leave out, and add the additive instead? I'm not knocking the product (anymore ) but you said it has no oil in it, it's pure additive. 64 ounces is alot of oil to leave out of the system.

 

There are two ways that I have done it. While I personally was running the miles between AZ and IN I just added it each time I needed oil until it was all in there. Now I was running 6k plus before oil changes. You can wait until the next oil change put this in first and top off with your oil and run until your next oil change. It is the same viscosity and smell, awesome. Gentlemen the only thing that will come close is running bio-diesel long enouph to clean your system out with 2 oil changes. Ive done that too.

 

Well I have something to add.

Chris say's his product does contain a friction modifier called Molly-D. An oil soluble form of Molybdenum. Well it is an excellent ant-wear additive. But this additive is already in some of the higher end oils like Chevron Delo 400 & Schaeffer's (I think Royal Purple also) and getting excellent wear results on UOA. It's nothing new - Molybdenum disulfide has been around for a while. Plus $50 is kinda steep when you can get the same reults from the oils listed above.

I don't think Strokin_it7.3 was nockin' anyones product it was the way he came across on the threads trying to push a product and sounding like a sales pitch then posted the same exact message on another post. This tends to **** people off.

my 2 cents

 

Rich, he is a sponsor and that is what they tend to do. Some more than others. He has put forth a certain investment and would probably like to see some results. It does assist the site.

As for that Delo, I have 4 gallons of Rotella I am considering taking back to Wally and getting that. Man, I have run Rotella since I got the truck. Old habits are hard to break. I want to change the oil before running to Smokin. Right now the truck is deadlined as I'm still stripping paint off the rear diff cover. Better living through chemicals I like to say. Unattended work taking place.

 

Chris is trying to explain his expertise within the rules and guideline of the forum sponser especially since he has worked with our engine manufacture on this product.

You are right about chemicals, but you are not correct in assuming that someone will give you the complete chemical mixture of a product that is breaking down the carbon build up in injectors and turbo oil gallies in a concentration that will not harm our engines. He does have to protect this product and his livelyhood.

Besides Chris. I support ITP diesel and Xtreme diesel because I have used and enjoy the product or the company. MY 7.3 was the first long hauler tested on the road. His other tests were local vehicles and engines from International tested at different controlled temperatures.

No one was knocking nor insulting Chris, the product or anything. We are all having a adult conversation on possibilites for injector issures and it contains a supporter with a product that compliments the intellect of forum members like, Phydeaux, Fabman Cookie, Kwik and others with a background in chemicals.

 

Sorry if I took it the wrong way.

Rich

 

No need for appologies, excellent points are brought up. If you dont express them then someone will just think them over and over without an answer. Its all good.

 

Guys,
I got home late. I was working at a Biodiesel plant all day. Let me add some more fodder to the equation. Hot Shot's Secret is all additive. Moly is a small part of it. It is not Moly disulfide (solid) but a liquid form of the Moly. It does have much better properties but that is not why I am introducing HSS. I would be glad to send Technical Data on the different forms of Moly to anyone interested. Synthetic does a great job, but what I am offering is a "fix it" type product. Even a great synthetic will only have half the additives as HSS. HSS is not made to be a stand alone product. It was made to fix one specific problem. So my gut tells me that if you were to take 2 trucks with stiction and run one with synthetic and one with Rotella and HSS you would get a better result from the Rotella and HSS. Now after that was done and the problem was fixed you would get a better result from the sythetic. Does that make sense? As far as oil analysis. We kept reformulating the product until we were able to get satifactory oil analysis after 7500 miles. The problem was making the product so it could be fool proof. We assumed somebody would put it in there truck for 25,000 miles and then tell us they had a problem because of HSS. So we had to make sure there was enough detergent and dispersant to clean the injector and turbo without ruining the rest of the oils balance. Trust me it wasn't easy. We tested 100's of trucks all over the country(different temps and altitudes). We had to be sure it was not going to cause damage. We know it will fix the problem most of the time. I also know it is not going to fix the problem 10-20% of the time. I know $50 bucks sounds like a lot but we are offering 64 oz of additive, shipped with a guarantee. Lubrication Specialties is not getting rich from this. I am open to any better ideas to get the job of selling it done. I would ask that anyone that is having the problem just try it. If it works for you like it has for all the people that have used it so far it will be the best $50 bucks you ever spent. If it doesn't just call or send an email and I will credit your card.

 

If its goos enuff for troy its good enuff for me..........might make a nice 100K present to the truck just for PM in a couple of changes.

 

Remember it is for a specific set of problems, not just a throw it addative. It wont show a result if your truck is running great already.

 

My truck runs fine, engine noise is just a little high. sounds to me like number 8 but i can't be sure. i have done the hpx mod and that did help a decent amount. how much HSS do you put into your oil? do you have to add it like 3 times to 3 oil changes or do oyu dump the whole 64oz in at one time? cautiously curious.

 

Send me a jug, I am known as a bit of a post *****, if it works you will hear about it... If not ya will hear about it...LOL

I clean my injectors with water...

WATER INJECTION...100k and my injectors looked like NEW.

 

Just one treatment seems to do the trick. I have had people come back 100K later and use it again. It works best if you put the whole bottle in. I am not sure about water injection cleaning but it sounds interesting.
Chris

 

do you add it to the oil in addition to the 4 gallons or so at a normal oil change or do you leave out 64 ounces of oil and put in 64 ouncces of HSS?

 

greagin,
Leave ut the 64 oz. or add the HSS instead of add oil.