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Helicopter sound
Well I did the first tow of the Fiver for this season and when pulling up a steep grade I do not seem to have the power that I used to. This is the first pull since I had my gauges installed and I am only reading around 15 LBS boost at 2300 RPM at 55 MPH going up a long steep grade. EGT's went up to 920 or so. I am getting this helicopter sound that makes me think that I might have a bad injector. I am also using Stanadyne (on my third tank). On my fourth tank it did seem a little better on the way back home. I have a Banks exhaust system and the six speed trans. I am at around 20,000 CGVWR. Am I on the right track or is there something that I need to be doing?I only have around 58000 on the od.
Thank you
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Yes, you do have turbo surge. You can fix it for $60 by upgrading the compressor wheel for $60 at www.xtremediesel.com
Yes, you do have turbo surge. You can fix it for $60 by upgrading the compressor wheel for $60 at www.xtremediesel.com
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I would like to add some information to the mix here. I worked on a project with Ford Power Strokes. The injectors were failing and we came up with the idea that the additives in engine oild were cooking out inside the injector because the injectors get so hot. After many tries we came up with an additive that will clean them 86% of the time. It doesn't work 100% of the time so I put money back guarantee on it. But I know from personal experience that it works most of the time. Even when it didn't work it was able to give a clear code on many of the other injectors. We would have trucks that showed 5 injectors bad or needing replaced. After teh additive it would show only one. I would like you guys to try it and post the results bad or good. I am available to answer any questions. My background is in Lubrication Engineering so I am not a mechanic. I was called into the project to figure out what was happening on the lube side of things. You can get it at www.lubricationspecialties.com it is called Hot Shot's Secret. Let me know what you think.
Thanks, Chris Gabrelcik
President Lubrication Specialties, Inc.
Thanks, Chris Gabrelcik
President Lubrication Specialties, Inc.
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Originally Posted by Chris Gabe Lube Specialities
I would like to add some information to the mix here. I worked on a project with Ford Power Strokes. The injectors were failing and we came up with the idea that the additives in engine oild were cooking out inside the injector because the injectors get so hot. After many tries we came up with an additive that will clean them 86% of the time. It doesn't work 100% of the time so I put money back guarantee on it. But I know from personal experience that it works most of the time. Even when it didn't work it was able to give a clear code on many of the other injectors. We would have trucks that showed 5 injectors bad or needing replaced. After teh additive it would show only one. I would like you guys to try it and post the results bad or good. I am available to answer any questions. My background is in Lubrication Engineering so I am not a mechanic. I was called into the project to figure out what was happening on the lube side of things. You can get it at www.lubricationspecialties.com it is called Hot Shot's Secret. Let me know what you think.
Thanks, Chris Gabrelcik
President Lubrication Specialties, Inc.
Thanks, Chris Gabrelcik
President Lubrication Specialties, Inc.
Locopower,
Do you have any other mods besides the guages?
Last edited by white Buffalo; Apr 14, 2007 at 08:43 PM.
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I think, that you should have started a new thread for your sales pitch, as this thread is clearly turbo surge which has nothing to do with cleaning your injectors, which is what you are talking about. 
Originally Posted by Chris Gabe Lube Specialities
I would like to add some information to the mix here. I worked on a project with Ford Power Strokes. The injectors were failing and we came up with the idea that the additives in engine oild were cooking out inside the injector because the injectors get so hot. After many tries we came up with an additive that will clean them 86% of the time. It doesn't work 100% of the time so I put money back guarantee on it. But I know from personal experience that it works most of the time. Even when it didn't work it was able to give a clear code on many of the other injectors. We would have trucks that showed 5 injectors bad or needing replaced. After teh additive it would show only one. I would like you guys to try it and post the results bad or good. I am available to answer any questions. My background is in Lubrication Engineering so I am not a mechanic. I was called into the project to figure out what was happening on the lube side of things. You can get it at www.lubricationspecialties.com it is called Hot Shot's Secret. Let me know what you think.
Thanks, Chris Gabrelcik
President Lubrication Specialties, Inc.
Thanks, Chris Gabrelcik
President Lubrication Specialties, Inc.
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White Buffalo, I am sorry it costs so much. It is 100% additive. Which means there is no carrier. Most additive suppliers use something to cut the additive with. We culd not do this with this add. It has been tested all over the country. There has probably been upward of 500k spent on it. You don't need to use it all the time and it does have a guarantee.
thanks,
Chris
thanks,
Chris
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Strokin,
I am sorry. I was repying to the comment made about stiction and injector problem. HSS does help the turbo. I spend most of my time in industrial plants so this whole forum thing is new to me. I was told that this was the best way to get people to try the product so I bought into it.
Chris
I am sorry. I was repying to the comment made about stiction and injector problem. HSS does help the turbo. I spend most of my time in industrial plants so this whole forum thing is new to me. I was told that this was the best way to get people to try the product so I bought into it.
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Originally Posted by Locopower
Well I did the first tow of the Fiver for this season and when pulling up a steep grade I do not seem to have the power that I used to. This is the first pull since I had my gauges installed and I am only reading around 15 LBS boost at 2300 RPM at 55 MPH going up a long steep grade. EGT's went up to 920 or so. I am getting this helicopter sound that makes me think that I might have a bad injector. I am also using Stanadyne (on my third tank). On my fourth tank it did seem a little better on the way back home. I have a Banks exhaust system and the six speed trans. I am at around 20,000 CGVWR. Am I on the right track or is there something that I need to be doing?I only have around 58000 on the od.
Thank you
Thank you
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Thank you for asking. I have Isspro gauges, Banks exhaust & exhaust brake, and a K&N filter soon to be replaced by an AIS. Stainless billet grill and fender well trim, chrome door & tailgate handles, LED light bar on the rear end. Pace Edwards roll top cover on the bed. I also want to thank everyone that posted their advise on this thread. Looks like the next mod will have to be the wicked wheel if I can get my local diesel shop to help me. Oh, I tow a 38' 05 Everest fiver
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Yes, get rid of that stock intake wheel. It will start to stall even with stock fuel programming and right about 2200-2300 rpm on a big hill.
My trailer is 36' so a touch shorter but my truck weighs 10k. Puts me at 24k total and with stock fuel I would get horrid surging from the intake. It sounded like a too-hot pressure cooker dancing away on the stove. tsstsstsstsstsstss.
The WW completly cured it.
My trailer is 36' so a touch shorter but my truck weighs 10k. Puts me at 24k total and with stock fuel I would get horrid surging from the intake. It sounded like a too-hot pressure cooker dancing away on the stove. tsstsstsstsstsstss.
The WW completly cured it.
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wow these threads go fast, Kiwk the last time I had any real demand on the engine (in the mountains) was last June coming back from FLA. through the Carolina's. (some 6% grades) It seemed to run fairly good but I did not have the gauges then to monitor things likes EGT & boost. I do recall thinking that I got some bad fuel coming out of FLA but I thought it was the ULSD. I have this truck since it was new in 01 but am new to this forum. Now I may be noticing things more than I used to due to what I have learned so far. You all are great people......
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We all know the turbo is lubricated by the oil system and a hot turbo will coke oil. A stuck injector sounds like chopper too on a dead cylinder with no go. Turbo chatter is usually a high pitch shutter that is in a lower rpm range.
On a side note Chris's product is EXCEPTIONALLY above great. Its a direct oil addative and cleans the whole oil system top to bottom. I ran the product and could not hear my engine run while I was resting last year with the engine running. The truck ran great afterwards. It took me about 100 miles or more after I added it in. My father added it to his 6.0 and after about 300 miles he said it was like someone had kicked the truck in the a$$. You guys know the 6.0 has even worse problems with injectors and turbos building up with carbon and blowing. I ran this product before I purchased Chris's 3 gallon bypass oil filtering system. EXCELLENT product guys.
We all know the turbo is lubricated by the oil system and a hot turbo will coke oil. A stuck injector sounds like chopper too on a dead cylinder with no go. Turbo chatter is usually a high pitch shutter that is in a lower rpm range.
On a side note Chris's product is EXCEPTIONALLY above great. Its a direct oil addative and cleans the whole oil system top to bottom. I ran the product and could not hear my engine run while I was resting last year with the engine running. The truck ran great afterwards. It took me about 100 miles or more after I added it in. My father added it to his 6.0 and after about 300 miles he said it was like someone had kicked the truck in the a$$. You guys know the 6.0 has even worse problems with injectors and turbos building up with carbon and blowing. I ran this product before I purchased Chris's 3 gallon bypass oil filtering system. EXCELLENT product guys.