Fram filters
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Originally Posted by 2000Expy
I have used Fram, but have heard they are not the best. I think their price pretty much tell us about their quality.
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I've gone my whole life up to this point without considering the possibility that my filter is counterfiet. No one has ever suggested to me to go buy a bunch of new oil filters and cut them open... maybe the next time I have fifty dollars, and I can't think of anything else to do with it...
Gotta say, I've gone my whole life and not had a fram fail. Never HEARD anything bad about them until I saw this. Not that I'm brand loyal - I've just never considered it.
The only motorcraft experience I've had is with the filter on my truck (2000 miles) and on a number of spectacularly lousy carbeurators.
Gotta say, I've gone my whole life and not had a fram fail. Never HEARD anything bad about them until I saw this. Not that I'm brand loyal - I've just never considered it.
The only motorcraft experience I've had is with the filter on my truck (2000 miles) and on a number of spectacularly lousy carbeurators.
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Fordmtnman is right in a way. I too HAD used Fram filters with never a problem, and if I hadn't seen all the negative (right or wrong) things said about them I'd still be using them. And may never have a problem.
But the human mind is a strange creature, enough people say something is bad and it becomes bad. Again Right or Wrong?
And I have to admit, I'm one of them. But mostly because I cut one open and didn't like what I saw. Mainly because the pressure relief valve is not build into the filter end cap (I know some are at the other end too) itself, it's part of the leaf spring that holds the filter element against the fitting end. So there is no real seal between that and the filter element, just the spring pushing it against the cardboard end cap.
But the human mind is a strange creature, enough people say something is bad and it becomes bad. Again Right or Wrong?
And I have to admit, I'm one of them. But mostly because I cut one open and didn't like what I saw. Mainly because the pressure relief valve is not build into the filter end cap (I know some are at the other end too) itself, it's part of the leaf spring that holds the filter element against the fitting end. So there is no real seal between that and the filter element, just the spring pushing it against the cardboard end cap.
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Originally Posted by Ed
Partsman, the HP-1 Fram and the PH8A oil filters are night and day difference. That's like comparing Spam to a Angus Beef Steak.
and second i had a fram crap out on me once and they paid for the repairs there was some plastic valve in the filter and it wassn't cut out all the way or something and ya my motor got no oil after the change and i have never used a fram since, but i also understand that nothing is 100% perfect off an assembly line there are defective products
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Originally Posted by MScotty
Fordmtnman is right in a way. I too HAD used Fram filters with never a problem, and if I hadn't seen all the negative (right or wrong) things said about them I'd still be using them. And may never have a problem.
But the human mind is a strange creature, enough people say something is bad and it becomes bad. Again Right or Wrong?
And I have to admit, I'm one of them. But mostly because I cut one open and didn't like what I saw. Mainly because the pressure relief valve is not build into the filter end cap (I know some are at the other end too) itself, it's part of the leaf spring that holds the filter element against the fitting end. So there is no real seal between that and the filter element, just the spring pushing it against the cardboard end cap.
But the human mind is a strange creature, enough people say something is bad and it becomes bad. Again Right or Wrong?
And I have to admit, I'm one of them. But mostly because I cut one open and didn't like what I saw. Mainly because the pressure relief valve is not build into the filter end cap (I know some are at the other end too) itself, it's part of the leaf spring that holds the filter element against the fitting end. So there is no real seal between that and the filter element, just the spring pushing it against the cardboard end cap.
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I tore up the internet researching this, and when it's time for my 1st oil change in a couple weeks, I think I'm going to go with the Bosch oil filter and Mobil 1 Synthetic.
I will miss the fram cases with the grip strips around the end cap so you can hand tighten/loosen them...
I will miss the fram cases with the grip strips around the end cap so you can hand tighten/loosen them...
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Originally Posted by fordmtnman
I tore up the internet researching this, and when it's time for my 1st oil change in a couple weeks, I think I'm going to go with the Bosch oil filter and Mobil 1 Synthetic.
I will miss the fram cases with the grip strips around the end cap so you can hand tighten/loosen them...
I will miss the fram cases with the grip strips around the end cap so you can hand tighten/loosen them...
Any oil filter is easy to tighten by hand, as long as the gasket is properly coated with a film of fresh oil.
Removing the oil filter, should never be a problem either. Oil filters do not need to be torqued on tight. Snug, but any common oil filter wrench will remove it easily. Especially when you change the oil filters yourself, there never is a problem.
Over-tightened oil filters, as done by various 'quickie lube' joints, then I can see why having that rough black strip on the edge of Fram filters would come in handy. Or an oil filter covered in dust, dirt, with a oil haze. The oil filters on my cars never get that way, even in my beater Escort I keep the engine clean - degrease and clean it once a year whether it needs it or not.
I am surprised no other company came up with that idea. I'll even say that was one of Fram's better additions to their orange bullets.
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