If the 4.4L V8 diesel is available in the SD, people can have their pick - fuel economy (4.4L) vs power (6.7L).

 

I have read more than one article stating that the 6.7L diesel will be built in-house by ford, be 2010 compliant, and 400 to 450hp. I do not have any proof, this is just what I have read.

 

Hello all;
Going with two engines makes a lot of sense to me. Do you want economy or power? Pick one.

The good side of this means that the 6.7 could be an absolute beast and get away with it.

I just hope that Ford takes their time and does it right. As much as I like Ford I will admit I have seen both ends of the spectrum from them.

 

The comment about not seeing a 6.4 not broken down should have been by the Ford dealer the first week in March 08 and watched the wrecker pull the black 08 with the horse trailer still attached to the dealer ship.

 

I hope they have been working on it for atleast a couple of years know. Hopefully they saw the end of them and Int. back when the 6.0 fiasco was going on. 4 years should be a fair amount of time to produce a decently reliable engine. I just thought of something cool.
It would be neat if Ford and Cummins partnerd, and Cummins would allow the sell of the v8 6.7l along with the straight 6 6.7l. So people could have there choice. v8 or S6.

 

To my understanding the 6.7 is being tested in trucks now under the skins of the 08's. Only time will tell.

 

Go to : MWM INTERNATIONAL Motores

MWM/ International 7.2 liter I6. 300HP@2200

Apparently used in f250's in brazil.

It comes in 6cyl and 4cly inline versions. Same interswappable parts!!

Ford should look into getting these puppies in north america!!!

Or, they can start buying my "in-house " engine, and save lots more money, I make mine mostly from coffee cans, so in the event of a rebuild, parts are always available. I utilize parts from lawnmowers and such to weld a crankshaft together, then make the injection system from pressure washer parts.

HP/ displacement numbers are not mentioned because that depends what size of soup cans used for cyclinders.

I could probably supply ford for a price of 160$ each for those...

 

We used the previous series MWM engines here in our base F250's (4.2 turbo I6)... the most reliable diesel engine I have had anything to do with, and we had the 7.3 as the other engine option.
(70's Mercedes diesel trucks excepted)

Did you look at the torque output?
http://www.mwm-international.com.br/...?idSubSerie=46

 

Damn thats a mean engine! 1300NM = 958 Ft/lbs of torque!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (AND THATS STOCK???????) for the badest version of the 7.2. But even the inline 4 would be a killer for the F150. That single series of engine would fit every concievable application from the f150 all the way up to the F450.

 

958 Ft/lbs of tourque, Pre-ford-computerized.

Even the 7.3 and 6.0 international versions have more tourque, but its down low at around 1400 rpm.

If ford put the MWM International 7.2 in the Superduty, and left the engine the way it is, that would be the best pulling truck, ever.

What I mean by "leave the engine the way it is";
-Don't change the power curve to accommodate 3500 RPM just to win a power race with chev or dodge. With this motor, the game is off.

-Don't introduce new high tech methods to put this beast in the SD. If the tranny / drivetrain can't handle it, put a gear up between the engine and tranny so she can purr along at 1400-1600rpm pulling a load - instead of 2000+ rpms just to keep the tranny in one piece. By keeping lower RPM's, fuel mileage should be decent too.

-If I was ford, I would kiss serious you know what to try and get these engines available, and get 'em 2010 emission ready.
parts,
-If ford designs a new V8 diesel, and a v6 diesel, fine, i'm sure it would be great, but If they had a PROVEN I-6, and an I-4 with identical parts, they would own the diesel market, and we would all benefit from cheap parts, monster pulling power, and the satisfaction of installing a 5.9 cummins as our starter for the 7.2 !!!

 

The specs for eveyone:

320 hp (238,6 kW) @ 2.200 rpm
1.300 Nm (132,6 kgf.m) @ 1200 - 1500 rpm
VGT Intercooler
Common Rail Electronic
Direct Injection
4-valves / cyl.
7.2 liter.

Damn that would be one sexy engine in a superduty...

 

Excellent point!


biz

 

You can get a 4cyl or a 6cyl in a ranger, who gets the 4? barely nobody.

When it comes down to it, everyone wants more mileage, but thats usually a distant second to power.

 

If they'll offer a 4.4 with similar power numbers to my 7.3 I'll buy them as soon as we know they're reliable.

 

A 4.4 liter diesel with 330 hp(? what they said) , is never going to be as reliable as a 7.3 liter with 270HP.

Thats just me though.

I suppose it also depends on duty cycle %'s.

"Mahindra", of international truck and engine, is importing small diesel trucks to the US, and they are all diesel, and starting at 22,000$
Ford better not do stupid shn*t or they will be bought out for next to nothing.

They think things are tough now? Just wait. Nissan, toyota, now mahindra, all have plans for the pickup truck diesel market. Nissan is already in bed with international, they even have a prototype titan with a "powerstroke" in it!!!