7.3 Vs 6.0
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From: Austin, TX
Originally Posted by 16diesel
I wouldnt run ur mouth about 7.3s wearing out b/c they dont. and dont get too high on ur horse because ive pulled a 6.0 backwards like it wasnt even there. with what u may say? a 88, 7.3 idi with a banks sidwinder and the pumpturned up (and a little extra wieght). why is that well for 1 the old idis make max torque at 1400 rpm and were dose a 6.0 make its???? at red line.. the 6.0 is a ok motor, but dose it run like a real diesel??? no. when u have to push it to red line to make torque thats not how a diesel should run. and i already know what ur gonna say il pull u blah blah blah. quite frankly it dosent come down to who has the most hp. it comes down to wieght, tires, were torque is made and abbility face it just because u have somthing dosent mean its the best. technology is great and all but face it the old ones 6.9s,7.3idis, 7.3psd, and 12 valves are the great ones.
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IMO only those who don't understand technology don't accept it. I find it somewhat amusing the number of people who use complexity as an argument against the implementation of technology when the real reason is a simple refusal to adapt to a superior method- because it requires more work in thought.
Sounds to me like a lot of people don't appreciate the fact that the laptop now yields more potency than the screwdriver
All of the bolts, screws, ***** and springs in the world will never live up to the usefulness and adaptability of even the weakest of processors.
Sounds to me like a lot of people don't appreciate the fact that the laptop now yields more potency than the screwdriver
All of the bolts, screws, ***** and springs in the world will never live up to the usefulness and adaptability of even the weakest of processors.
Last edited by PSD 60L Fx4; Aug 25, 2007 at 11:20 PM.
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From: hillsborough nj
Originally Posted by PSD 60L Fx4
Sounds to me like a lot of people don't appreciate the fact that the laptop now yields more potency than the screwdriver All of the bolts, screws, ***** and springs in the world will never live up to the usefulness and adaptability of even the weakest of processors.
All of the bolts, screws, ***** and springs in the world will never live up to the usefulness and adaptability of even the weakest of processors.
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From: minneapolis, ks
Originally Posted by glasseater
they don't.... 12v cummins... are you guys really this ignorant? us 7.3 guys have plainly stated that we do not have the best motor out there, we said that you guys CAN outrun us, but give us something to pull and it's over and that we can do that for a much longer time.... all you guys say is "THE 6.0 IS THE BEST MOTOR EVER!!!" while we say "it's fast, but you still gotta beat the 12v for all out performance and the 7.3 and the 12v for reliability!!! and lets not get into the IDI engines
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From: hillsborough nj
Originally Posted by lukecline
Once they get lack of rpm issue ironed out on the new 5.9 cr engines the 12v will be a thing of the past. Heck there are guys already above the 1100 hp level and in a street truck. Maddogs truck is the only 12v that is even close to being streetable at that hp level. CR engines can flow tons of fuel with much better inj pressure/ atomizatoin than the older engines and will be capable of much more hp in the near future once they figure out how to get some decent rpms.
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From: Austin, TX
the CR cummins engines are good engines as well. the only problem i've heard of the those engines are that the rail pressure will drop to nothing if you don't watch it and eventually eat up the cp3 pump. that is all i've heard on those trucks, but i still say that the cummins and 7.3 powerstrokes are the kings of reliability although that is just my own opinion. technology is all good as long as it is good enough to keep from breaking things. the 6.0's are good engines for power, but the way they are made, they aren't as reliable and it takes to many rpm's to get the power out of 'em. that is why they aren't the best towing trucks. you must have torque at low rpm or it's difficult to get a really heavy load rolling.
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strokin'_tatsch, would this technology that you speak of be referring to the 6.0, or the 7.3 CPS and the weak auto offered in them? Lets not even go into the dodge auto. Yes I have an auto 4X4, so to compair it equally would be against the same in a 7.3 or 12V cummins. I have news for you, my torqshift will be around alot longer than either of the other 2 mentioned. BTW there are already several trucks that have passed your mileage mark in the 6.0 forum. Minor repairs, no trannies. Time is the only real issue here. 10 years form now, the 7.3 will be a distant memory, as they will be all but used up. The 6.0 will still be around. As for the 6.4 other than the CR, (look for this in the future offerings for a 6.0 aftermarket) the compound turbo setup, slightly larger bore, and a little different bolting scenario on the heads (bigger diameter bolts) it is a 6.0. Again, nothing used technology wise form the 7.3.
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Originally Posted by mrxlh
strokin'_tatsch, would this technology that you speak of be referring to the 6.0, or the 7.3 CPS and the weak auto offered in them? Lets not even go into the dodge auto. Yes I have an auto 4X4, so to compair it equally would be against the same in a 7.3 or 12V cummins. I have news for you, my torqshift will be around alot longer than either of the other 2 mentioned. BTW there are already several trucks that have passed your mileage mark in the 6.0 forum. Minor repairs, no trannies. Time is the only real issue here. 10 years form now, the 7.3 will be a distant memory, as they will be all but used up. The 6.0 will still be around. As for the 6.4 other than the CR, (look for this in the future offerings for a 6.0 aftermarket) the compound turbo setup, slightly larger bore, and a little different bolting scenario on the heads (bigger diameter bolts) it is a 6.0. Again, nothing used technology wise form the 7.3.
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From: Ellensburg, Washington
Originally Posted by mrxlh
Hate to break it to you, but the allison has a much higher failure rate than the torqshift.
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Last edited by powerstroked162; Aug 27, 2007 at 07:14 PM.
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once again people are comparing apples to oranges, the old 7.3 psd didnt have the most durable tranny, but have u ever seen how often they tow thousands of lbs over gvw? could it be because people used the crap out of them? any more all i see 6.0's doing is taking the family to the mall.(thats a real hard life for a tranny)
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Originally Posted by mrxlh
Hate to break it to you, but the allison has a much higher failure rate than the torqshift.
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From: Ellensburg, Washington
Originally Posted by strokin'_tatsch
he was talking about the PPE xcelerator.
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