not to be a wet blanket guys but if you run the plugin modules be ready to shell out 2500.00 plus for new headbolts & gaskets as you will I repeat will lift your heads! as for foot print they do not leave one in the ECM, however they do leave a massive foot print on the firedomes of your pistons witch will be very noticable when the heads come off for the gasket change! please research this & see for your self as the 6.0 is very sensitive to cylinder pressures & the inline fuel modules tend to just skyrocket pressures & since they are overriding the ECM's feedback systems (lieing to them) there is no protection from overboost or injector leakage or timing advance or overspeed or over pressure conditions, so basicaly you will render your ECM's protections useless & trust me you will have problems with headgaskets. If you still need more advice on inline fuel modules run a search on this site & be prepared for a lot of reading, then make your choice as they are your head gaskets & it is your warranty, I hope this helps to dissuade you from making a costly mistake!

 

Exactly,
hotroddsl has it covered 100%. Do a search and read read read.

 

Not being a mechanic (or mechainically inclined), I really dont know what to think about the power modules. It came with my F250 7.3 ltr truck so I kept it on.
If what you say is true (and I have no reason to doubt) why are these things so popular (not to mention costly).

 

Most of the popularity to a certain brand is do to buyer ignorance and slick marketing practices by the seller, remember "caveat emptor". Also most people assume that if the product worked on a 7.3 or GMC or Dodge then it must be safe for ALL engines. That could not be further from the truth. Each engine is different and requires different things for optimum performance and longevity.

You must rember the 7.3 is a completely different engine than the 6.0. The 6.0 has 80 less cubic inches yet produces more Hp & Torques stock than the 7.3L. The 6.0 is much more critical of cylinder pressure, with high cylinder pressure values as little as 22psi boost can lift the heads on a 6.0. Changing the injector timing/pulse width as most "chips/inline modules do greatly effects the cylinder pressure. All "chips/inline fuel modules" are bad news for the 6.0 & Torqueshift. The only way to properly tune the 6.0 & Torqueshift is with an SCT XcalII with "Custom Tunes" were the tune writer can properly address all parameter of the PCM, TCM and FICM. With the level of computer controls on the 6.0 a fully customizeable tuner is the only safe way to go. This has been proven out with thousands of miles of use and racing of the 6.0.

 

Those questions are pretty easily answered.

Many aftermarket products gain their popularity due to a combination of unregulated & very creative advertising and the all too common, unwary consumer. Just because an intake or exhaust flows more air does not necessarily mean that it is a best intake or exhaust on the market. Nor does this claim of increased flow mean that you will see a bona fide increase in fuel economy or performance. Similarly, a chip/tuner may help your vehicle get more power, but the question these folks should be asking themselves is whether or not that power going to cut into the life of the drivetrain. Not all power is good power. If it was, we would all be running around with nitrous oxide bottles in the trunks/boxes of our vehicles.

Most people laugh at infomercials, but then they watch a commercial for a performance part on Spike TV's "Powerblock", and they buy into all of the claims without a second thought. What's the difference? They are both advertising their products. Why do people make any kind of credibility distinction between Corporation/Company A & Billy Mays Hayes (name spelling?) or any of the other infomercial hosts?


As for cost, it is amazing what we will pay for something that we want. Buying into some of the advertising claims for these products creates part of the want. Add in the almost blind faith that the product will help your vehicle look better, drive easier, perform better, or whatever, and you have an economic model wherein the manufacturer can set a price & the masses will still be lined up to have their wallets emptied.

Don't get me wrong. Not all companies are wolves in a sheeps skin, as the saying goes. But, there are enough out there that the wary & educated consumer should be looking into EVERY aspect of the product before buying.

Just for kicks, take this challenge...anytime you see an aftermarket part or product, take a close & thorough look through the advertising, packaging, web site, or whatever you can get your hands & eyes on, and look for this one little phrase (or something very similar): "Intended for off-road use only." This disclaimer can be found on mundane items like head/fog light bulbs and air filters and on the more extravagant items like chips/tuners.

 

Ok, so now I'm confused. BlackHat620, are you saying that I might be ok with the Painless module since my engine is 7.3? What if I only ran it on say the "5" setting? It goes as high as 10 which is the HO (high output) mode.

 

I have no clue as to what the painless module will or will not do to the 7.3. It maybe just as bad or worse for the 7.3 than the 6.0. You are posting in the 6.0 section of the forum. For specific 7.3 questions you need to post in the proper 7.3 section of the forum for the best answers to your questions. I do know that DP-tuner is the tuner of choice in the 7.3 section of the forum.

 

Ok, thanks.