Sounds right to me. Also sounds like you have been lucky that they would work on it with the 'Edge" installed and paid for under warrenty!!!

When running a tuner, your living on the edge... and yes, Ford is cracking down and the training the diesel techs are getting is that if a tuner is suspected and/or found either by them or by the WDS machine (the computer that reflashes the motor) it will flag the "system" and be part of your vehicles record. Whether or not true... the techs at my dealership are tired of loosing time and money due to warrenty repairs that pay less and then find out it is due to a tuner... and they could have just billed it out at the full shop rate instead of the reduced warrenty rate.

Sounds like your dealer has really been working with you and I would just forget using the edge tuner and enjoy your truck... or just start saving your money for a rainy day at some point down the road.

 

Yeah I drove a truck the other day with the injector buzz, its not loud at all, I cant beleive anyone would complain.

Anyone know what day this new flash will be sent out? Mine is going in the 19th for a flash, hoping I get the injector buzz.

 

I would just wait....

I have a March 2003 built Excursion and I have never had a cold weather srating issue... either with 15W-40 or 5W-40 synthetic. I just got the "buzz" flash today and even though I could care less... it does "bug me" to hear it... but the new flash due out will warm the injectors on start-up for a few minutes. Personally, I just like the sound of (or non-sound) of this new flash that is duew out in 3 - 4 weeks.

If it ain't broke... don't fix it... and since the new/newer flash is due out shortly... just wait... or it would give you a reason to stop back into the dealership if you needed a reason???

 

the service tech and the manager suggested the tuner, they said there would not be a warranty problem unless they had to bring someone from ford in on the repair. the reason i got it is because ford couldn't solve the problem of it seeming like it was taking off in third gear. it took off pretty good with the edge, but w/o it, you had not better pull off in traffic. i had really liked my truck, but i have the same truck in a v-10 that has never been in the shop and has more miles on it. mileage on both has left a lot to be desired. but with gas being cheaper and payin 6k more for a diesel, i don't know. i will pull a 9000 lb. load maybe once a month. i an very confused.

 

if you dont need a diesel and do not mind 8-12MPG then a V10 is awesome.. cost less to begin w/. I did the math once, it will take you 100,00-125,000 miles to break even w/ the fuel mileage cost of a new truck. but I still will never go back to a gasser.. unless I downsized.. the diesel costs more to maintain,weighs more and fuel costs more.. but the resale is much much better. which means you can get a sweet deal on a V10 SD..

 

Then you have a dealer issue or tech issue.

Of the 3 diesel techs I have gotton to know at my local dealership and 2 or 3 here at FTE, I know of NONE that would suggest an aftermarket tuner for a truck that had no "go-go" upon take off.

The issue is one of the following (and I bet a few more)...

1) Re-program with latest flash.
2) Check for any codes and proper EGR and turbo operation.
3) Check/update TCM (tranny programming).
4) Check for proper system pressure and fluid in tranny.
5) Dealer could ask for assistance from Ford and check for any other "issues" to check.

Bottom line, if your truck is not operating like you bought it, then there is a problem... and no "Band-Aid tuner" is going to fix it without the potantial problems of something else (just common sense). All it takes is for the area service guy to be in the shop when your truck is being looked at, or for Ford to suggest a new flash and find out that it "locks up" your PCM due to finding a "non-Ford" program... then all the "best intentions are out the window".

Good luck though... but I know that my diesel techs would FIX my truck and not sleep until it was... and would never suggest an aftermarket tuner... but hey, maybe my dealer's diesel techs are better trained... makes you wonder huh????

 

My dealer installed a tuner for me a year ago after a re-flash killed my power. It worked great until now. I just had it in for the BUZZ re-flash. This flash killed my power again and the tranny doesn't shift hard any more under hard acceleration. They came by and picked it up yesterday to try something else so I'll let you know if they get my power back and fix the tranny.

 

I was going to get the buzz flash but decided not to. At this point I don't feel my truck needs it. I find it weird now that they are removing the flash all together. Almost seems they may have discovered the buzz flash actually causes other injector problems. I find it hard to believe they'd pay to engineer a new fix cause the old one made an annoying noise. There's been posts here where people complain of annoying operating noises and were told by ford to live with it.

 

The buzz flash doesnt kill power, it helps with cold start. When you get a new flash, you also get all the previous ones as well.There has been numerous discussions about the tech "completing the flash". Your loss of power wasnt because of the flash being bad, It was because of the techs being bad and not doing the job correctly. When they reflash, there are pids to monitor (vgtlrn) and (vgtle), these show whether or not the pcm has relearned the egr and turbo strategy. If you were turned loose without these being relearned, yes, there will be power issues. Most of the problems with the 6.0 have been from incompetent (or poorly trained) techs.

 

have any of you seen a big loss in fuel miliage after the injector flash??

 

I had the "injector flash" done a couple of weeks ago. Since then, I have put on about 800 miles and my mileage is the same, no better, no worse.

 

I had my 03 ficm flashed a couple of weeks ago. I have 49K on it and haven't noticed any difference except when its cold it does start easier and no grey smoke. No change in fuel mileage, power, shifting or anything else.

 

Thanks to Vloney and the other techs here, I had mine done, and knew what questions to ask when I brought the truck in. I got to talk to the tech after his test drive, and asked him about it. He answered correctly so I felt it was done right. I actually gained about 1/4 to 1/2 mpg since flash. I hand calculate my mileage each and every tank full.( funny thing, I think this will alert a non mechanically inclined person when troubles are beginning) Fuel consumption is directly related to any internal combustion engines condition. Just an easy tip for the less knowledgable here of a simple way to keep track on whats happening with your truck.

 

thanks for the input guy's.Like I said I hav'nt filled up yet and havn't hand calculated..So it could just be me,but 253 miles and just over 1/4 tank seemed less than usual. I let you know my figures tomm.

 

Also if you have been doing any extended idling that every hour idling uses .8 gallons. When I figure my mileage its 13-14mpg, when I deduct my idle time out its normally in the 15-16mpg range. Just some more food for thought.