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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 08:25 PM
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Crankcase vent

Has anyone run a mod for the crankcase vent and tied it into the exhaust?
 
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Old Jan 22, 2007 | 08:04 PM
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Hmmm?

I am not sure why you'd want to and I'm sure there would be several problems to overcome. I'll watch this thread to see how it goes.

Some thoughts:

1) Where would you introduce it into the exhaust stream?

2) How would you overcome the pressure differential between the crankcase (lower) and the exhaust stream (higher)?

3) If properly designed and placed, I imagine you might be able to take advantage of the Bernoulli effect and cause a vacuum in the crankcase vent tube by using the velocity of the exhaust stream, but sizing and placement where it enters the exhaust would be critical.

4) Would the induced vacuum be reliable through the entire rpm range to supply enough vacuum to evacuate the crankcase at all times?

5) Would a stock PCV valve perform satisfactorily under a possibly different or varying amount of vacuum?

6) If placed before the catalytic converter, wouldn't the unburned oil vapor build up in it until it reached the catalyzing temperature, then be fuel for a fire, possibly ruining the cat.?

Let's see what folks say.....


 

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Old Jan 22, 2007 | 08:21 PM
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Race cars used to vent the crankcase into the headers, especially drag racing vehicles.

These days, they use a vacuum pump to suck out the fumes, allowing lower ring tension (less friction) but with good oil control (burning oil = lower octane = detonation = bearing failure).

These are racing engines; they live in short bursts of maximum acceleration and are not expected to last for 10 years.

Not sure why you would want something like this on your truck. The factory PCV does a great job, there would be no benefit to modifying it that I am aware of.
 
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Old Jan 22, 2007 | 08:34 PM
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diesel owners do this mod to reroute the ccv from the intake tube to the exaust or outside air. this prevents the oilly residue from pooling in the intercooler and the IC pipes.it also elliminates all the oilly mess you normaly see under the hood of a PSD.
 
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Old Jan 22, 2007 | 09:01 PM
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OK, the fact he wanted to do ths to a diesel never occured to me.
 
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Old Jan 22, 2007 | 10:19 PM
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OK, the fact he wanted to do ths to a diesel never occured to me.
I've been here too long, I knew what he was talking about right away

Maybe something cool like a heater core used as a radiator to lower the temp of the PCV-vented fumes before routing to the intake. And a petcock on the bottom of the heater core to drain the oil every oil change.

Sorry, it's the only thing I could think of that was somewhat federal-emissions legal
 
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Old Jan 22, 2007 | 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by krewat
federal-emissions legal
What's that?
 
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Old Jan 23, 2007 | 07:42 AM
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I believe that routing the crankcase emissions back into the engine was one of the first regulated emissions modifications. Previous to that the crankcase had a tube extending fron somewhere low on the block to a spot low enough to catch a passing air stream.

As a kid before I could drive I remember travelling an interstate before vehicles had that and there would be a dark greasy-looking stripe between the wheel tracks, especially on upgrades. Wouldn't that be nice to drive on early in a rain shower?
 
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Originally Posted by MuddyAxles


I believe that routing the crankcase emissions back into the engine was one of the first regulated emissions modifications.
Actually, the PCV wasn't developed for emission control. It was developed for fleet owners (like taxis or police) that had vehicles that idled for long periods or spent long periods in the city moving slowly. The draft tubes did not provide enough suction to get the blowby out of the crankcases, creating an acidic sludge which shortened engine life.

The Feds saw the system and mandated the use of them for the 1963 model year.
 
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Old Jan 23, 2007 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by MuddyAxles


I believe that routing the crankcase emissions back into the engine was one of the first regulated emissions modifications. Previous to that the crankcase had a tube extending fron somewhere low on the block to a spot low enough to catch a passing air stream.

As a kid before I could drive I remember travelling an interstate before vehicles had that and there would be a dark greasy-looking stripe between the wheel tracks, especially on upgrades. Wouldn't that be nice to drive on early in a rain shower?
Ah, yeah, I was being a wise a$$. ROFL Notice my sig? CCV Re-Route.
 
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Old Jan 25, 2007 | 03:07 AM
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Originally Posted by swwajk
Has anyone run a mod for the crankcase vent and tied it into the exhaust?
Yep. Lots of people. This is my setup. It has worked fine for about 75,000 miles or so.



 
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