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From: West Australia
Dgr
I've been so far able to ascertain that:-
IATA DGR SPA3 is the regulkation that exempts oil samples for analysis.
It stands for: International Air Transport Authority Dangerous Goods Regulation SP A3
Flammable goods (liquids) are hydrocarbons with a flash pioint below 63 degrees celcius, and that engine sump oil samples are exempt under SP A3 becuase they have a flash point > than 120 degrees celcius!
Apparently the postal employees are trained to refuse All oil - unless the sender knows all the appropriate rules and regs and specifies the flashpoints etc etc..
What a fricken rigamoraole!
All I wants a few samples analysed!
It still aint postedas yet gonna have another go today!
Cheers!
IATA DGR SPA3 is the regulkation that exempts oil samples for analysis.
It stands for: International Air Transport Authority Dangerous Goods Regulation SP A3
Flammable goods (liquids) are hydrocarbons with a flash pioint below 63 degrees celcius, and that engine sump oil samples are exempt under SP A3 becuase they have a flash point > than 120 degrees celcius!
Apparently the postal employees are trained to refuse All oil - unless the sender knows all the appropriate rules and regs and specifies the flashpoints etc etc..
What a fricken rigamoraole!
All I wants a few samples analysed!
It still aint postedas yet gonna have another go today!
Cheers!
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From: Kodiak AK
I am a hazmat coordinator in the Coast Guard and we run into this problem all the time for sending out our oil samples from the ships. Flywest has the answer. The key is to know the flashpoint. Oil samples are not hazardous unless it is in large quantity. I am supprised your oil sample company didnt go into that in there paperwork. I guess you can't expect all postmasters to have a brain.
The product being sent in our oil sample container is new or used lubricating oil. It is not hazardous, flammable, or toxic. The average flashpoint of used engine oil is 380°F. Used transmission fluid or lube oil has an average flashpoint of 340°F. The minimum flashpoint for all oils we receive is 250°F. The postal regulations for Hazardous Material (DMM 601.10.6) indicate that:
"For air or surface transportation without restriction, if the flashpoint is above 200°F (93°C). Mailable combustible liquids must be properly and securely packaged to prevent leakage."
The product being sent in our oil sample container is new or used lubricating oil. It is not hazardous, flammable, or toxic. The average flashpoint of used engine oil is 380°F. Used transmission fluid or lube oil has an average flashpoint of 340°F. The minimum flashpoint for all oils we receive is 250°F. The postal regulations for Hazardous Material (DMM 601.10.6) indicate that:
"For air or surface transportation without restriction, if the flashpoint is above 200°F (93°C). Mailable combustible liquids must be properly and securely packaged to prevent leakage."
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No Excue
I have no excuse other than "I'm self un employed!"
Someone wants to go fishin - I get up n go - if not, I hibernate like a bear!
It don't pay all the bills sometimes....but I seem to be getting used to it!
One a these days - I may have to get me a "real" (Read 9 - 5) Job again!
(Yikes, now theres a scarey thought!).
Truthfully I'm waiting on some US Multinational Corp to recognise my abilities and 'head hunt' me to head up their downunder corporations operations for some ungodly 6 digit sum per annum with luxury car, laptop and office gals with cleavage!
I been waiting a long time on that one for some unknown reason!!
Like all things - good things come to those who wait!
Just think - a downunder exec - with waterfront accoms and his own charterboat - could make the US CEO's business trips downunder a lotta fun - no?
Cheers!
Someone wants to go fishin - I get up n go - if not, I hibernate like a bear!
It don't pay all the bills sometimes....but I seem to be getting used to it!
One a these days - I may have to get me a "real" (Read 9 - 5) Job again!
(Yikes, now theres a scarey thought!).
Truthfully I'm waiting on some US Multinational Corp to recognise my abilities and 'head hunt' me to head up their downunder corporations operations for some ungodly 6 digit sum per annum with luxury car, laptop and office gals with cleavage!
I been waiting a long time on that one for some unknown reason!!
Like all things - good things come to those who wait!
Just think - a downunder exec - with waterfront accoms and his own charterboat - could make the US CEO's business trips downunder a lotta fun - no?
Cheers!
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From: Eastern Washington
Originally Posted by Flywest
I'm gonna put "Human fecal samples" on the damn customs declaration.....lets see which postal guru's game enough to go pickin thru the box to see if it's dangerous goods then!
LOL
Good on ya! I'm gonna do the same thing just for fun! We could have an 'annual FTE fecal matter day' and plauge the post....
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Good news!
Went back to the PO and took the Blackstone Laboratories letter (Many thanks indeed for the link) as well as the data from the Postal packaging people about flashpoints and the exemption etc!
They did accept the parcel - actually it was the same gal as refused it the day before!
Yesterday she wore a name badge that read Sky - today she had a name badge that read Leanne! Struth - they swap name badges each day so no one can write official complaints! :Rollseyes: Anyways - she biatched and argued and finally gave in and posted it when presented with more info then she knew how to dispute!
Soo....samples away!
Cheers!
Went back to the PO and took the Blackstone Laboratories letter (Many thanks indeed for the link) as well as the data from the Postal packaging people about flashpoints and the exemption etc!
They did accept the parcel - actually it was the same gal as refused it the day before!
Yesterday she wore a name badge that read Sky - today she had a name badge that read Leanne! Struth - they swap name badges each day so no one can write official complaints! :Rollseyes: Anyways - she biatched and argued and finally gave in and posted it when presented with more info then she knew how to dispute!
Soo....samples away!
Cheers!
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[QUOTE=Flywest]Good news!
Went back to the PO and took the Blackstone Laboratories letter (Many thanks indeed for the link) as well as the data from the Postal packaging people about flashpoints and the exemption etc!
They did accept the parcel - actually it was the same gal as refused it the day before!
Yesterday she wore a name badge that read Sky - today she had a name badge that read Leanne! Struth - they swap name badges each day so no one can write official complaints! :Rollseyes: Anyways - she biatched and argued and finally gave in and posted it when presented with more info then she knew how to dispute!
Soo....samples away!
Cheers
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Congratulations on getting it out. It would be easy if you had them email you a copy of the analysis back, that way you won't have to wait as long. Just wait for that huge 
eating grin that you will get once you open it and find out the excellent results
eating grin that you will get once you open it and find out the excellent results
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From: N. Georgia
I only had a problem trying to mail my first one. I came back home and looked up and printed out the rules on the USPS websight. When I went back in a couple of days, I dazzled them with more facts than the postal workers could comprehend. They still ask me the questions when I go in but they don't hesitate to take my samples.
Joe
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