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Old Nov 15, 2006 | 01:40 PM
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intermitten dying/starting problem

I purchased a 78 f-50 with a 400 4 speed about a year ago and I am having problems with it dying then not starting lately. First time it happened I was pulling out of my driveway and it just died on me and would not start again. I kept trying it and if finally started after multiple tries. It will do this at any given time, sometimes will run fine all day, then it will die 5 times in one hour. Sometimes it will die driving down the highway then run turn back on a second later. I know it is an ignition related problem and have narrowed it down to either the distributor or ign module. The module had been replaced by previous owner right before I bought it so it is only about 1 year old. Could the mag pickup be causing this? Any thoughts or past experience would be appreciated.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2006 | 01:55 PM
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I believe your right on, it's either one of the two things mentioned, sounds like the ign. module to me. I've seen "new out of the box" parts bad before so, don't rule out the 1 year old ign. module. After market modules seem to give up the ghost quicker than OEM Ford modules. -Ed
 
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Old Nov 15, 2006 | 02:47 PM
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You know this happened to me a few times last year.

You won't believe what the problem was:

a wire going to a connector.
Yep a simple little thing that costs nothing.
The wire entering the connector that went to the distributor was "hanging by a thread"

"Connections Corrode" and break down for contact.

Too many times this has happened to people and they spend hundred's of $$$$ replacing parts that don't need replacing.
Check all your wiring and inside the connections.

BTW, this happens a lot on 80's trucks & cars where is constant temp and humidity changes.

Corrosion corrosion corrosion
 
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Old Nov 15, 2006 | 03:32 PM
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Yeah well I hate throwing parts so when I get the chance I will get to looking a little deeper. I just hate these problems that come and go.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2006 | 03:42 PM
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You could have rubber fuel lines collapsing.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2006 | 04:30 PM
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Dealing with the same problem

Thompsen:

I'm dealing with the same symptoms on my '79 F150; I have a post listed within the last 24 hours describing it: https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/5...-when-hot.html. I have located my problem at the wires that enter the distributor. The truck will only die when the engine compartment is warm. If I shake or move the wires when the truck is warm, it will die every time. The distributor was one of the last things I even considered because it was replaced about 6-8 months ago. Evidently, parts out of a box can be faulty from the start. I have a rebuilt distributor that I need to switch out this weekend. Hopefully this one will have good wiring in it. Try moving the wiring around as I described when it's warmed up to see if it dies on you. Post back your results please. Good luck!!
 
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Old Nov 15, 2006 | 09:17 PM
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When mine did this it was the ignition module, but could be a fualty coil getting hot. They make a lot of cheap ignition modules nowadays. you may have to replace yours again.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2006 | 11:42 AM
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I probably wont get at it for awhile because it is at the ranch right now. I tried moving some wires around to see if I had a short but could not find anything. I'm not sure if I tried the dizzy wires though. My truck will quit whether it is warm or not. Sometimes it will die 2 minutes after starting...sometimes not die for 50 miles of driving or more??? I will post results when I get it figured out.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2006 | 01:04 PM
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Those are the exact same symptoms I had.
You never knew when it will happen

Usually Ignition modules "Just go completely dead" unexpectly and will not work again.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2006 | 01:12 PM
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I agree Million, I am leaning more and more to a loose/corroded connection. Thanks again.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 01:22 AM
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The same thing is happening to me with my 76 F250. I feel the engine shut off & then come right back on goiing down the road sometimes. I also have the problem of not starting until 20 - 30 minutes later like something is getting hot. I was stuck on a wildeness trail at Land Between the Lakes National reserve and it quit. I thought I was going for a 5-6 mile hike. After 20 minutes or so, it strarted right up and ran fine for 4 days after before doing it again last night.
I'm going to check the wires and module. I have a module on another truck to try out. It's nice to hear everyones tips and suggestions.
Thanks
 
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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 03:24 PM
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The most commonly heard phrase in a 70's Ford pickup :

"It was working fine a few minutes ago"
 
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