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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 12:47 PM
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Starting Fluid - Why So Bad

I could not get my truck to start after parking it on a hill and i shot some starting fluid in there to get it to crank and i have 2 ??
1. why is it so bad - what does it do to the truck
2. how else could i get it to crank - could i put a gas soaked rag close to the intake or is that stupid

it made a weird sound while it was sitting there after i had sprayed it - like the truck was coughing (only did it twice)
my truck seems to be okay but i wanted to know what the deal was?
 
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 12:53 PM
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uh either and hot glow plugs don't mix and either does not have the lube and cooling factors that diesel has the truck has a self purging fuel system it just takes a little time
 
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 12:55 PM
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ether + glow plugs = KABOOM.


Worse case scenario but i think that sums it up pretty good.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 01:31 PM
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do you think the self purging system would have done the job? i tried to crank it so much that i killed the batteries and i turned the switch off and onn several times to hopefully get some fuel up front but nothing - how do u get it to self-purge??
 
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 01:58 PM
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If you spray staring fluid into the intake tract while NOT cranking the engine, you can vapor lock the motor.

If you have to use SF, have someone spray it WHILE you are cranking.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 02:08 PM
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So i guess if the truck is running good then i am okay? it make a second or 2 longer to crank since i did that last night or it could just be me looking for a problem !!!
would i have noticed if i screwed something up
 
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 03:15 PM
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If your engine is cold, starter fluid is the worse thing you can do. Basically when the glow plugs are on, the starter fluid could pre-detonate and you could end up with a hole in your piston. Remember that diesel's run at higher compression, add on top of that a spark plug like effect with an active glow plug.... and BOOM! Diesel burns slower than gasoline, and starter fluid burns even faster than gas.

Now if the engine is warm (engine oil over 150 degrees I believe), then the glow plugs do not switch on, and the chance of pre-detonation drops considerably. Still not the best method for starting our trucks, but if you really are stranded and have no other alternative..................................
 
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 04:57 PM
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if you didnt give the starter time to cool down and just cranked until the batteries died, then you probably roasted some epoxy in the starter, and possibly fried or melted some field coils in the starter. the fact of weak batteries creates a voltage loss off the bat, which increases amperage draw, causing heat. heat in the cables in turn heats up the starter, which lowers voltage and increases resistance (amp draw) and more heat. it also lowers the efficiency of the starter, as heat equals resistance. remember to crank for no more than 30 seonds at a time, and give at least 2 minutes rest time between cranks. that may be the case of the slow cranking.
 
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Have you checked your oil level lately? or Oil level in the HPOP. Might be draining out and it has to refill back up. I would not keep on using starting Fluid. I would hate to hear about it later that something went wrong.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 08:58 PM
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the only safe way to use starting fluid on our trucks is to disable the glowplugs. like other have said the easily ingnited fluid combined with the hot glow plugs if causes a explosion that is too big and at the wrong time.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 09:15 PM
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I have heard that WD-40 is a good (safe) starting fluid. Is that correct and how do you go about getting it in there if it is?
 
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 11:11 PM
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WD-40 is also what I've heard to use as well. It will stay in vapor form for a little bit, probably just long enough to help get the engine fired.

Check your oil level, like someone said. Could be not getting enough in the HPOP. No oil in the HPOP = no injectors running = no starting.
 
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