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Old Aug 8, 2006 | 10:20 PM
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Question No Power 6th Gear Useless

99' f350, 203000 miles, 6 speed tranny, absolutley bone stock, the truck is very weak and sounds like one or possibly two injectors may be down, but I have had the truck on a proffesional scan tool and no troubled injectors were found. The only thing that seemed unusual was the scan tool showed the ICP pressure at 400 psi at idle, the mechanic stated it should be around 700 psi at idle. I was wandering if that is true, and also can a proffesional scan tool detect a bad injector. Other people told me the turbo is bad, but the truck is weak even a low rpms (for example- if the truck is on a grade when taking off you have to use 1st, and even on level ground you have to slip the clutch a lot to take off in 2nd and at hiway speeds 6th gear is useless unless you are doing 75 plus mph) I really dont think its the turbo because at full accleration I can feel a slight increase in pull at about 2400 rpms like the turbo is still fuctioning. Could someone please give me some advice.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2006 | 10:27 PM
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You should change the fuel filter if it hasnt been done... poor fuel flow, poor power (period). Stay with the lower cost items first. Then check the air filter ... if you cant breathe, you cant work properly. You can remove the intake side of the air cleaner to the turbo and see if the turbo is free spinning, even by hand with the engine off. Let us know what ya find.
 
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 10:10 AM
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Just starting here at work, so no time for details, but get the HPOP pressure issue fixed and your power will come back.
 
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 11:44 AM
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Now HPOP, is that high press oil pump, and, can debris in IPR cause low HPOP readings?
 

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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 01:29 PM
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HPOP - High Pressure Oil Pump

High pressure should be in the 500 PSI range at idle. Should be 2800 PSI at wide open throttle. The injectors use HPO to fire, and if you don't have the correct ICP then the injectors don't work well. The IPR regulates the HPO. Anything wrong with the IPR and the truck runs like crap. In other words, the HPOP is the potential and the IPR controls it. Either can give you the same symptoms. The IPR is much cheaper and easier to replace than the pump.

As an after thought, a leaky o-ring on an injector will also drop your pressure.
 
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 01:39 PM
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High pressure should be in the 500 PSI range at idle. Should be 2800 PSI at wide open throttle.
My pump shows 475 at idle and 3,100 on WOT monitoring with Autoenginuity.
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 04:39 PM
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Are you getting any smoke or just a loss in power?
 
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 07:37 PM
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My pump shows 475 at idle and 3,100 on WOT monitoring with Autoenginuity.
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Thats about what I see. On a cold start HPO stays around 530 at idle once it is warm it will hold around 470....but step on the skinny pedal and it gets to 2800 pretty quick.

Bad ICP sensor maybe
 
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no smoke and no power, well thanks for all the info, everyone has been a great help and I now have a good starting point on repairing my truck, I will keep everyone updated
 
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