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Old Jan 20, 2002 | 11:25 PM
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Hey CRJ. Mil. was trying to lead you in the right direction. It is not the 12 volts from a battery that would do it. Your coil amplifies the voltage (12volts). As you turn the key on, this allows 12 volts to energize the coil,(and builds up amperage on, I belive the primary side of the coil, like the burner on your electic stove(kinda)), as you turn the key to start your motor, this spins starter which inturn spins the dist., and closes the points which sends this built up (amped up) voltage,(12000-15000 vlots) through your wire, through the spark plug, across to the ground, igniting your fuel.( liquid gas or in your attemps CO.)
Good luck with your EXPEIMENT.
 
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Old Jan 20, 2002 | 11:36 PM
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CRJ here a page to read up on how a coil produces it's 12000 volts.
[http://autorepair.about.com/library/weekly/aa072200a.htm]
 
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Old Jan 20, 2002 | 11:37 PM
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Sorry, Must be getting tired. http://autorepair.about.com/library/weekly/aa072200a.htm
 
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Old Jan 20, 2002 | 11:40 PM
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>CRJ-----You need to understand the difference between the
>120 volt ac(alternating current) that comes out of your
>house wiring and the DC(direct current or voltage) that is
>supplied to the spark plugs in your vehicle---the house
>voltage---120 volts ac WILL KILL YOU-----the electrical
>system on your vehicle Will shock but it won't hurt you at
>all---the basic voltage of yor vehicle's electrical system
>is 12 volts dc---It IS NEVER going to hurt you at
>all----Touch both terminals of your battery with your
>fingers----you won't feel anything--because there isn't
>enough VOLTAGE to hurt you or anyone else--- Now the 12
>volts dc is fed into the coil and the coil takes that 12
>volts and turns it into 25,000 volts dc----this is what will
>SHOCK you----but it won't KILL----It takes that amount of
>voltage to "JUMP" the gap on the spark plug --that spark is
>what causes the gasoline and air in the combustion chamber
>to explode


Volts dont kill Amps kill, it seems like it takes less than 3 amps to stop the heart, how many amps is your alternator? stock is around 45? the thing is skin is a fairly good insulator for small stuff, I've also heard of people who have hit the wrong line, as in boom trucks going up into high voltage lines 30k+ volts it burned the guy bad!, blew his teeth/joints out etc... You can hear some bad stories working for sparky's. Stun guns go well over 100k volts and wont kill, so it's not the volts that kill in this case :7 :7
 
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Old Jan 21, 2002 | 12:47 AM
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>Sorry, Must be getting tired.
>http://autorepair.about.com/library/weekly/aa072200a.htm

That's what the EDIT tab is for.


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Old Jan 21, 2002 | 12:59 AM
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> >110-120v A/C will not kill you persay ,I will throw a Bad
>>heart for a loop though.
>>110-120 v A/C normally *throws the body part away from
>>it*
>
>You are really misinformed if you believe that. 110-120vac
>will definitely kill you, especially 60hz,


Below was Snipped because I understood what was said.

What I meant was I have been JOLTED MANY time with 60hz 110-120vac

My arms go flailing and I Always get Jolted Away.


If it Kills everytime a person touches a live circuit ,I'm either
a Cat or I've got a computer in Heaven with me right now.

Also, It makes me happy to have an electrician here to
correct my mistakes when i make them.


>Sparky

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Old Jan 21, 2002 | 04:19 AM
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Well, I'm just Shocked at all the responses on the AC vs DC thread---Where is ole' Einstein when Ya need'em----He could straighten us all out on Da Theoritical differences of Da AC versus Da DC---Ya , fd:-X11
 
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Old Jan 21, 2002 | 07:31 AM
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CRJ,
I've read the rest of these replies and have come to a conclusion:
Hire someone who knows something about what your trying to do. You do not have the basic knowledge needed to achieve your goals.
1. You will need a coil to create the potential needed to force an arc across a spark plug. A car battery has a potential of 12VDC. A coil can create a potential of 40,000 V. By playing with a battery and a spark plug you have only proved that you are no where near achieving what you're trying to do.
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Old Jan 21, 2002 | 09:09 AM
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-CRJ900 go to this site, it is what I used
< http://www.studz.freeserve.co.uk/creatures/flame.htm >
I have 14 guage wire with a 30 amp inline fuse going to a toggle swich, the wire goes from the other side of the toggle switch to the sparkplug end. The sparkplug is a short lawnmower one and screws into the tailpipe 5" back. The tailpipe is the ground. That's it!

Maybe you need to try a different sparkplug when you do it.
Good Luck -Dan
 
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Old Jan 21, 2002 | 04:20 PM
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ok, i got all the wiring done, under the truck, inside, now all i need to do is connect the wire to the correct spot on the spark plug. do i connect it to the electrode, or the other end. thakns
 
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Old Jan 21, 2002 | 05:03 PM
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[updated:LAST EDITED ON 21-Jan-02 AT 06:05&nbsp;PM (EST)]The TOP, where the sparkplug wire would attach.

The sparking end should be in the tailpipe.

If you can't figure out how to attach it.
Find an Old sparkplug wire ,REMOVE the End that attaches to the plug and solder the wire to the clip,and push it on the sparkplug.


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Old Jan 21, 2002 | 06:13 PM
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so your sayin that it WILL have enough power to make it spark. correct?
 
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Old Jan 21, 2002 | 06:28 PM
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Forget about a flamethrower,Lets make a stinger out of a coil and a 9-volt battery.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2002 | 06:44 PM
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what is a stinger
 
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Old Jan 21, 2002 | 07:14 PM
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Stinger Missle !
Aren't they usually mounted on an F-15 ?
Not F-150's

He's pulling your leg Chris.

I DON'T guarantee a spark.
You'll have to talk to Sparky ,he's in Charge of Sparks around here.
Plus,He's a fireman,so Not only can he can light it But,he can put the Fire Out.

Dennis

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